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Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

Why does Discovery get more episodes than Strange New World’s?

In addition to everyone pointing out that the co-production deal with Netflix probably stipulated a certain number of episodes for DIS, I think the other thing to bear in mind is that DIS was a proven, successful show when S4 was commissioned, while SNW was not yet a proven success when S1 was ordered.

Also, why did Strange New World’s only get a one hour long pilot episode when all of the other series got a two hour pilot?

I don't think the TNG, DS9, VOY, or ENT pilots were even considerations when Paramount ordered SNW. Also, PIC only had an hour-long pilot and a 10-episode first season.

But if Paramount+ only has Star Trek to offer as a selling point which has quite a niche following, if they don’t have anything else to offer other people they aren’t going to get many subscribers are they. There aren’t exactly loads of Star Trek fans in the world… I mean, I don’t actually know any Star Trek fans in the real world, just here on TrekBBS. :shrug:

Paramount+ can not be maintained financially by TrekBBS users alone.

While I agree that hard-core Trekkies are not a sufficiently large audience to carry the entire streaming service, it does seem that the streaming TV market is so crowded that Star Trek was able to serve as the cornerstone for CBS All-Access/Paramount+ in its first few years. Audiences can be a lot smaller today for a successful show than they could in the mid-2000s.

And nowadays, Paramount+ has one of the most popular shows on television Yellowstone. It also has The Good Fight, 1883, Halo, the iCarly revival, a lot of reality TV shows, a lot of sports programming, and a lot of the Viacom film and TV archive.
 
In addition to everyone pointing out that the co-production deal with Netflix probably stipulated a certain number of episodes for DIS, I think the other thing to bear in mind is that DIS was a proven, successful show when S4 was commissioned, while SNW was not yet a proven success when S1 was ordered.



I don't think the TNG, DS9, VOY, or ENT pilots were even considerations when Paramount ordered SNW. Also, PIC only had an hour-long pilot and a 10-episode first season.



While I agree that hard-core Trekkies are not a sufficiently large audience to carry the entire streaming service, it does seem that the streaming TV market is so crowded that Star Trek was able to serve as the cornerstone for CBS All-Access/Paramount+ in its first few years. Audiences can be a lot smaller today for a successful show than they could in the mid-2000s.

And nowadays, Paramount+ has one of the most popular shows on television Yellowstone. It also has The Good Fight, 1883, Halo, the iCarly revival, a lot of reality TV shows, a lot of sports programming, and a lot of the Viacom film and TV archive.
I have a friend who picked up CBSAA/Paramount+ because she's a huge fan of the NCIS series.
 
My wife watches The Good Fight. Together we watch Mayor of Easttown and Amazing Race. We’ve also watched a few films on the service. I’ve wanted to dig into The Offer. So while yes, primarily our Paramount+ sub is used for Star Trek, we’ve watched other things on it. Definitely get our money out of our annual ad free subscription.
 
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Just finished watching 1883. Amazing show with some refreshingly profound philosophical analyses on civilization vs. the wild. Rough ending, though. Going to take on Yellowstone next, but for some odd reason it doesn’t seem to be available on P+.
 
Just finished watching 1883. Amazing show with some refreshingly profound philosophical analyses on civilization vs. the wild. Rough ending, though. Going to take on Yellowstone next, but for some odd reason it doesn’t seem to be available on P+.

Paramount/CBS weren’t really putting all their resources into CBS All Access when Yellowstone began, and they sold its streaming rights to NBC/Universal’s Peacock at the time, where it’ll remain for the time being.

With Yellowstone being the success it is for them, ‪‪I imagine as soon as their contracts afford them the opportunity they’ll bring it to Paramount+, or even a repeat of the situation with Discovery, ‪‪where they bought back Netflix’s investment, I could see them paying NBC/Universal to end the contract early.
 
I have a friend who picked up CBSAA/Paramount+ because she's a huge fan of the NCIS series.
Basically the only reason I got Paramount+ was for NCIS. It's ironic, for the previous few years I was constantly slagging off the Canadian Paramount+ outlet for being really pointless as all the Paramount+ original content was available via other means in Canada. The Star Treks are on a cable channel, as is The Good Fight. The Stand is on the Canadian Amazon Prime. And yet, last year as I started getting into NCIS, I realized the most convenient way to watch the series from beginning to current season was to get the Canadian Paramount+, so here I am now.

And as it is, it's only been very recently that Paramount+ original shows have been available on the Canadian outlet. IIRC, Halo and 1883 are the only ones the Canadian outlet has.
 
In addition to Trek we get a fair amount of milage out of the nickelodeon shows for the kids. I've also been a loyal Colbert viewer since the first episode of the Colbert Report, so it's very convenient to watch last night's Late Show at 10 the next night.
 
Well how about this, it’s my favorite first five episodes of any trek. And I would put any season of modern trek over seasons 1 or 2 of TNG without batting an eye.

It being your fav doesn't change that the overwhelming response was incredibly negative and it resulted in the end of the B&B era & put both the film & TV franchises in stasis for years.
 
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