Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x01 - "Hegemony, Part II"

[cooleddie74]

Well I always thought it was intimated that Flint from TOS S3 Requiem for Methuselah had actually been Jesus Christ.

Moses, actually.

 

[Noname Given]

Moses, actually.

Why not BOTH?

 

[Moopsy]

He knew Moses and Jesus (having "been" Lazarus).

 

[cooleddie74]

Kathryn Janeway (to Tuvok about Leonardo da Vinci): "James T. Kirk once claimed he MET the man, though the evidence is less than convincing."

 

[eschaton]

So I finally got around to watching the season premiere, and came away thinking, as seemingly the case so many times with cliffhanger resolutions, that was okay, but kind of a letdown. It's almost as if the Gorn were incidental to the entire episode, after figuring so prominently in part one. The hibernation aspect was interesting, I guess, but the hatchling area was too obviously lifted from the Alien franchise. Then you have complicated technology and language, with no hint whatsoever as to how that evolved... I could not suspend disbelief enough to warrant fascination with the antagonist. Everything else was kind of rote and uninspired to me as well. The Pelia-Scotty interaction fell flat because of her voice, but I did enjoy the Spock-Chapel dynamic. I'm usually so easy to please with brand new Trek, but other than the lavish production values and charismatic leads, the story was pedestrian at best... 7.

The problem with Star Trek season finales (actually, the problem with season finales in general) is writers generally create the cliffhanger with no idea how they're going to solve this.

A novelist would never, ever do this. Even if they got backed into a corner with a mid-book cliffhanger, they'd go back and edit earlier chapters to add foreshadowing before it was released.

So it's essentially a setup/payoff problem.

 

[Mudd]

Novelists publish books that set up sequels without having thought through the sequels all the time. Some successful popular novelists do almost no pre-plotting or outlining at all.

 

[eschaton]

Novelists publish books that set up sequels without having thought through the sequels all the time. Some successful popular novelists do almost no pre-plotting or outlining at all.

Books almost never end on a true cliffhanger, and make fans really, really angry if they do, because means the promise that the book's setup would lead to a payoff is unfinished. Ending on a "teaser" promising a different plot in the next book is a different thing entirely. The novel has narrative closure, it's just that the epilogue (or whatever) set the seeds for the potential next installment.

 

[The Wormhole]

I remember one novel I read, the author said he originally had the two lead characters killed. The editor then requested their fates be rewritten to open the possibility of sequels. So as a result, an epilogue was added showing they did in fact survive their apparently fatal incidents. One was stabbed in the neck, the other stuck in a submarine without power on the bottom of the sea. In the epilogue, the one stabbed wakes up in a hospital while the one on a submarine is just about pass into oblivion when he hears thuds on the hull from the rescue submersible.

 

[Mudd]

I remember one novel I read, the author said he originally had the two lead characters killed. The editor then requested their fates be rewritten to open the possibility of sequels. So as a result, an epilogue was added showing they did in fact survive their apparently fatal incidents. One was stabbed in the neck, the other stuck in a submarine without power on the bottom of the sea. In the epilogue, the one stabbed wakes up in a hospital while the one on a submarine is just about pass into oblivion when he hears thuds on the hull from the rescue submersible.

Brooks did a massive retcon on what was originally a Tolkien pastiche as he went forward, turning it into a vaguely skiffy future history.

 

[MarcKle1964]

Brooks did a massive retcon on what was originally a Tolkien pastiche as he went forward, turning it into a vaguely skiffy future history.

I sure hope the SNW crew doesn't get turned into inhabitants of Middle Earth... We all know who would be a elf, thyroid problems or not.