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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x10 - "New Life and New Civilizations"

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Do we know if it's going to be a whole episode?
The interviews everyone's giving calling it "the puppet episode" certainly seem to imply as much.

But now I've just opened the floodgates for "interviews can be misleading" and "it can still be 'the puppet episode' if puppets are just featured in one scene" or whatever. There will be no convincing some people until this time next year when the episode has aired and it is indeed the whole episode featuring puppets.
 
So finally caught up with all of season 3 by finishing this episode minutes ago and i'm so glad it's over. Season 4 is anywhere like this then I won't make it to the end - I still haven't watched the final season of Disco after the opening 2 episode of the final season annoyed the hell out of me and I loved the 4th season finale - called it one of the best Trek episodes of all time!

This wasn't a Star Trek episode - it was a Doctor Who episode. I love Doctor Who - well I love 2005-2017 Doctor Who and bits of what comes after. I do not watch Star Trek to watch Doctor Who. The writers knew it too with the silly line from that annoying engineer. They even used the regeneration CGI for the last battle and the music at that point was so Doctor Who. We even got a timey wimey Nexus rip off side plot. The whole foreboding destinies thing at the start was right out of Modern Doctor Who.

Speaking of the plot - rushed, half assed with a pathetically easy conclusion. PS: Vulcan mind melds don't work like that.

Season 3 has been largely very poor. I loved Season 1 and liked season 2 but this was bad Star Trek right out of the TOS season 3 playbook.

It's just been disappointing....Now cue the familiar faces who hate having anything negative said about Star Trek.
 
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So finally caught up with all of season 3 by finishing this episode minutes ago and i'm so glad it's over. Season 4 is anywhere like this then I won't make it to the end - I still haven't watched the final season of Disco after the opening 2 episode of the final season annoyed the hell out of me and I loved the 4th season finale - called it one of the best Trek episodes of all time!

This wasn't a Star Trek episode - it was a Doctor Who episode. I love Doctor Who - well I love 2005-2017 Doctor Who and bits of what comes after. I do not watch Star Trek to watch Doctor Who. The writers knew it too with the silly line from that annoying engineer. They even used the regeneration CGI for the last battle and the music at that point was so Doctor Who. We even got a timey wimey Nexus rip off side plot. The whole foreboding destinies thing at the start was right out of Modern Doctor Who.

Speaking of the plot - rushed, half assed with a pathetically easy conclusion. PS: Vulcan mind melds don't work like that.

Season 3 has been largely very poor. I loved Season 1 and liked season 2 but this was bad Star Trek right out of the TOS season 3 playbook.

It's just been disappointing....Now cue the familiar faces who hate having anything negative said about Star Trek.
Here's hoping for you that Season 4 improves.
How does it do that? You seem quite fond of that accusation.
I bag on PICARD season three all of the time. People are perfectly fine with me having that opinion. Even those that love it.
And to be honest, SNW3 was a disappointment to me.
Same here. Haven't even finished 3.
 
Hell, mind melds didn't always work consistently in the handful of times we saw them in TOS. Spock melded with a Horta and with Nomad. How often do Vulcans even attempt that with non-humanoid life forms in the shows since 1969?
 
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Yep. Spock melded with a giant abstract projection of Ilia's neck sensor. And almost died as a result. That's a wild turn of events even for Star Trek.
 
Hell, mind melds didn't always work consistently in the handful of times we saw them in TOS. Spock melded with a Horta and with Nomad. How often do Vulcans even attempt that with non-humanoid life forms in the shows since 1969?
The reasoning-by-analogy that concludes a telepath would be able to read the "mind" of a machine has always annoyed me so much that I made an issue of it in my Trek script. :lol:
 
Yeah, Spock mind melding with Nomad gave us the backstory for how and why the probe ended up the way it was and gave our heroes the knowledge necessary to defeat it (hence why the meld even happened because, well, it had to), but Spock melded with a floating, homicidal coffee urn and the episode was written to imply that electronic circuits and energy currents are the same as biological brains and synapses.

I love the episode, but Spock should have gotten NOTHING out of Nomad. The probe didn't have a linear, tangible "mind" to lock into and read.
 
Decades later Deanna Troi was able to sense emotions from Data. Granted, he was much more complex and sophisticated than Nomad, but still a machine.

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Good bits with the FarraPrise, Pelia, and Paul Wesley’s Kirk playing off Ethan Peck’s Spock. The visuals were stunning.

The tone felt like a writer wanted to do a Halloween episode while killing a character so they fed Catspaw and Skin of Evil into ChatGPT and hit “surprise me.” The deus ex machina fixing the diabolus in machina with a spiritus in machina...whew...how much more can you cram into that machina?

The damning part for me...watching the death of a spouse or loved one actually evokes the aching resonance of The Inner Light... but this had all the emotional depth of someone who once lost a pet goldfish. "Excuse me dear, I'll just get door whilst you snuff it".

Here’s hoping for better writers in Season 4.
 
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