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Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

I just re-watched the first four episodes for the first time since they originally dropped, and I must say that this might be the most high-quality string of consecutive episodes in the history of the franchise.

The stories, sci-if elements, character moments, pacing, visuals, comedy, tension, action, music, performance ….it’s absolutely phenomenal. What a way to kick off a new series.
That was my take when I originally watched the season. I haven't rewatched it yet but suspect I'll continue to hold the same opinion. The one let down was the cosplay episode. I thought the Gorn were fine.
 
I've never watched B5 or any JMS show, but with a majority of TV shows, main characters aren't written off "at any time." Usually main characters only leave in either the first or last two episodes of a season, or in a midseason arc if the season is long enough to have such a thing. There are reasons for this, related to actor contracts and the fact that it makes the most sense to have major events like a character's departure to happen in episodes you know will have the most amount of viewers, so that they will see about it. Even on the rare occasions when a character is written out of a show at a different point in the season, everyone makes damned sure to hype the episode as a special event to make sure everyone's watching. Like when Rick left The Walking Dead, fifth episode of a sixteen episode season, but it was heavily promoted for two months prior that that would be his last episode.

Indeed, given actor departures tend to be announced several months in advance of when their last episode airs, meaning there is rarely ever a surprise character departure on television anymore and that 98% of the time, you can be guaranteed all the main cast will make it to the end. In fact, one of the reasons Hemmer's death flew under the radar and wasn't spoiled is because the actor is still under contract for the second season, meaning he is not in fact departing the show. He'll be playing a new character, though, but that's still not departing the show.
I take it you haven't watched Game of Thrones? There's a number of exceptions to the rules you mention in that series alone. Although, I do agree with you in the main for most shows.
 
Makes me wish Discovery wasn't in the future. Bring over Stamets and Culber, both actors have also stared in musicals.

I mean, there are at least 285 000 different timelines according to “Parallels”. I’m sure that there’s a timeline where Discovery never went to the future. Thus allowing for Stamets and Culber to appear on SNW.
 
So, I just completed a binge re-watch of SNW. I always like doing this, because I think it's a much more objective experience than just doing it the first time through. usually, "first time through" you're either squeeing with delight and therefore not objective...or you're irrationally irritated, and similarly not objective.

So, upon rewatch, with a much more objective and unbiased set of eyes on on the season, I'd say the following:

  • The cast is phenomenal and the characters are great. I was a little chilly on Nurse Chapel the first time through, but upon rewatch, I've come to the conclusion that both the character and the actress are really great. I also was a little skeptical of T'Pring's presence in this series, but similarly, the actress does an amazing job and I loved all of her scenes in this show. Everyone else is fantastic. My favorite character (outside the obvious Pike and Spock choices) is M'Benga. I really loved him and I loved the entire sub-plot of his daughter and his love for her. Great stuff.
  • The show looks and sounds great. The production values are rich and the designs are gorgeous. I can't say enough about how much I love "LOOKING" at this show.
  • The first 4 episodes are home runs. Like, maybe the best run of 4 consecutive episodes in the entire franchise. The middle episodes (Spock Amok, Suffering) are ok, but definitely get carried by the actors and the characters, and no so much the story. Serene Squall was a mis-fire...just "Children Shall Lead / Threshold" craptastic bad. We end on a strong note with the last 2 episodes being great.
  • The pacing is perfect. It's not as frenetic as DSC or KelvinTrek...and it's not as slow as TNG. It hits just the right pace and balance for my liking.
  • This may be the series that captures the spirit of TOS more than any other (yes, even more than TNG). It's high adventure out on the frontiers of space. That's Star Trek...at its very essence. Not space politics. Not family drama. Not intrigue and wars.... THIS really is it.
  • The Gorn, as re-imagined, are a good enemy. I like them as a menacing, unknown threat.
  • I think if they can avoid some of the issues the other Kurtzman era shows have been victimized by (pacing, bad character mix, etc) this will be a great Trek series. It remains to be seen...but I'm very hopeful. They seem to have captured the feel and the right mix of characters...and that's 90% of the battle

Anyway, that's my take on it.
 
The fact that Hemmer's death was painful for many of us speaks to how well the actor did. So I think the character breathed quite a bit in his short time. :)
Also shows how well the character was written. And remember the character's death was planned from day one, and the actor was made aware of that plan when he was cast in the role. Also the actor is coming back in to the series in another character role.
 
Yes they are and no amount of denial or snark from people who don't like it will ever change it.

Or until a new showrunner says it’s different.

And I’m perfectly fine with my denial and snark, thank you.

Also, one can like a show just fine and still not believe it takes place in the same universe as another show. It’s called accepting something for its own merits, not just because it has some sort of tenuous link to some other, more popular thing. But apparently making up one’s own mind is overrated.
 
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Since some people seem to care about RLM/Mike's opinion on Trek, here

16:34 in. Mike only got through 1.5 episodes
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He thought the premise of episode 1 was atrocious and doesn't like how the characters are written, they don't feel mature

"I can't deal with characters that act like teenagers'

They shouldn't laugh or make quips
 
Since some people seem to care about RLM/Mike's opinion on Trek, here

16:34 in. Mike only got through 1.5 episodes
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He thought the premise of episode 1 was atrocious and doesn't like how the characters are written, they don't feel mature

"I can't deal with characters that act like teenagers'

They shouldn't laugh or make quips
I knew people like these would find a way to come up with something. I guess this was it.
 
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