If Rayner dies (and I hope he doesn't), his death will be badass.
Just like his life.
Captain Rayner. What a guy.
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Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 5x03 - "Jinaal"
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If Rayner dies (and I hope he doesn't), his death will be badass.
Just like his life.
Captain Rayner. What a guy.
I'm sure he'll make it to the finale. But will he survive it?
More importantly:
Will the finale survive HIM?
Will the finale survive HIM?
Zora found the Couriers first.
This was not originally intended to be the final season, so it’s unlikely to culminate in MB dying, leaving, or getting promoted to Admiral. And if it does end in one of those things, it was a hastily added finale, not the original plan.
This was kind of a cat chasing its tail episode, with very little coming out of it except for a showcase for Culber's character... the actor did manage to create an old Trill persona fairly well, unzipped jacket or not. The test itself was kind of telegraphed, but a Trek message for sure. Tilly's facial expressions and reactions to Rayner's insufferable personality were well delivered, as was the gruff captain's reactions and realization, but the Gray and Adira relationship left me ice cold--there was no spark there. The Burnham / Book dynamic still works, and part of me hopes that that actor will be part of Trek's future... he's a mini-Idris Elba who might be well suited for a new show, although my first hope is that Michelle Yeo will take the Section 31 movie into series mode. Barely an 8, but I'll take it.
There's an interview with him out there where he laments not being able to continue the character next year so it's a virtual certainty he survives.If Rayner dies (and I hope he doesn't), his death will be badass.
Just like his life.
What a guy.
Now I remember where I heard about the symbiote being dependant on having a host once joined... it was in "DAX", DS9 season 1. Bashir was giving testimony, and he said that after "93 hours after being joined, the symbiote and host are biologically interdependant on each other". It can't survive without being joined to a new host. Which means the symbiote must keep joining to a new host every time the host dies once it joined with its first host. It's a point of no return for the symbiote.
But where was it ever said that if the host dies on Trill, it can go back into the pools and still live? I don't recall that ever being said in any episode. (If this is in dialogue, please let me know. Because I'm racking my brain to remember any reference to that, and I'm coming up empty.)
Couldn't that be interpreted differently?
If Starfleet Academy is based in Discovery's setting, his character (as well as other Discovery characters) could conceivably appear just like Tilly or Kovich ... if they're still in existence.
Because that’s what we just saw with Bix.
Its host died, yet we see Bix living peacefully in the Caves of Mak’ala afterwards. They make it a point to show us Bix swimming off into the distance after its host's death.
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The waters of Trill inside the caves must be chemically balanced just right to allow a symbiont to survive for more than 93 hours outside a host body.
THat seems to be the most logical interpretation
I meant before this episode.
If they wanted to add this as something the symbiotes can do, fine. But at least acknowledge the fact of their dependancy on a host with a line or two of dialogue to be clear this is a possibility. Something like this...
Gray: I thought symbiotes were dependant on a host once they start joining?
Lead Guardian: Only if they are unable to get to these caves within a few days.
That would have taken, at most, 6-7 seconds. And it wouldn't be contradicting anything previously established... simply adding to what's already there.
I rewatched that episode and I feel better with my giving it a 5. It maybe could have gotten a 6, but my issues with it were similar to what I said the other day. The only interesting part of this episode for me was Culber and Jinaal, and even in that story, I wish he had talked with Stamets and not Burnham. Stamets has really been regulated to where Detmer and Owo were in Seasons 1 and 2 and that is a shame. He was only in two scenes and it people kind of talking down to him. I did get the Dominion War reference, but I can't help but wonder if the writers didn't understand the Dominion War. They mentioned how it was people seeing each other as the enemy, yet Paradise Lost (DS9, Season 4) went out of it's way to say that yeah the Changlings are here but we are not going to change how we live. Maybe they were focusing more on Section 31, but that was so covert that the common citizen wouldn't know that. It seemed like a War where everyone knew who the enemies were. Also, the cliffhanger scene of this episode didn't entirely work for me because it was a few scenes earlier where they were talking about Trill security. I guess it wasn't up to snuff after all.
I'm hoping each episode just isn't another clue on the trail. It's the beginning of the season but I hope by midseason we might be getting a lot more interesting stuff. Also, please use Stamets more. If Detmer and Owo aren't even to be seen, at least Anthony Rapp is listed as part of the main cast.
I'm hoping each episode just isn't another clue on the trail. It's the beginning of the season but I hope by midseason we might be getting a lot more interesting stuff. Also, please use Stamets more. If Detmer and Owo aren't even to be seen, at least Anthony Rapp is listed as part of the main cast.
DIdn't they film some extra material as a sort of coda, when they learned this was the final season? I don't have twitter but people post links here every now and then. And a swear someone posted a link to a tweet that stated as much.
Apparently the show itself won't!
Didn't Todd Stashwick say something similar?
Yes, that’s the “hastily added finale” I meant.
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