Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x06 – “Come, Let’s Away”
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I thought the Valiant was behind enemy lines for eight months, since "VALIANT" takes place about 8 months after the war starts?Oh. We're talking about dialogue from Paradise Lost, not Valiant! Okay, now I'm on board.
Yeah, Leyton sends them off prior to him being caught. But it would be silly to think they are still off hidden somewhere due to orders he made before his downfall.
And as said in Valiant, they have only been on assignment for eight months.
Correction: Eight months since the captain died. The original assignment was three months, so it's eleven total at absolute maximum.
Yeah the timing doesnt seem to quite add up. It's possible they were sent away briefly on the Valiant to do some other training exercise before their circumnavigation. There's nothing to say the assignment that got them stranded was their first.
I'm not saying it would or should. I'm just saying I miss that show and should have gotten more seasons.
They could always pull the old time travel bit again...or have LD be a holocartoon program in-universe, akin to the comic book telling stories based on real people.
Watching cadets read books and practice with nerf guns doesn’t sound like compelling TV to me.
So is showing cadets and leaders as total incompetents compelling? The girl who swallowed her comm badge had to be removed from the bridge. Shes panicked before. Red alert l! Red alert! Its been a full semester and shes still not starfleet material. Wesley bombed out his first just by failing a exam because he was 3rd in speed. Only because he helped another cadet. Yet they are taking a cadet that swallows her comm badge. Panics twice when the ship is out. They haven't helped her yet. Come on. That isn't compelling. Its just bad writing.
Oh that’s a reference I missed
bsky.app
Probably because the creature was never actually named on screen ST09, I think.
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
According to Lura Thok in #StarfleetAcademy's "Come, Let's Away"⬆️, Genesis Lythe uses her eyes "with the precision of a hengra". The hengra(uggi) first appeared on Delta Vega in "Star Trek '09"⬇️. As the screenshot shows, it is a many-eyed creature.
bsky.app
Probably because the creature was never actually named on screen ST09, I think.
She might not be fit for certain duties but she could be perfectly suited for starbase or planet based assignments. She might be a talented engineer just not one who should be near any combat zones.
Yep, I didn't even remember it was even called that until just now. Now the name makes sense, but I could go years without recalling what that creature is named.
Well if they keep bringing her out like this it needs to be addressed. They can take part of an episode to either set her straight or she leaves to go work on earth.
Or combadges.
Except that in Starfleet, the combat very often comes to them.
Some examples, all starbase or planet based:
Probe disabling the starbase in STIV.
Talarian attack on the Galen IV colony. ("Suddenly Human")
Ohniaka III. ("Descent")
Breen attack on Earth. ("THE CHANGING FACE OF EVIL")
As a member of Starfleet, you have to be trained to at least be somewhat able to handle these situations. It's called having standards, like any organization that deals with emergencies. (Police, firefighter, military, etc.)
What about being proficient at small talk?
Doesn't matter. If the cadet can't handle those kind of situations, they wash out.
There's no shame in that. Not everyone is cut out for that kind of service.
Poor Commander Hutchins
The point of that episode isn't that she dies - she is basically the red shirt of that episode. It's that Kirk has to choose to let her die after falling in love with her. I guess people would call that a form of "fridging" now.
As far as we know, the characters hate each other because of their rivalry. They did use the three characters who don't care about the rivalry at all on the away mission (although I don't know what drunk SAM is supposed to reveal about SAM's true feelings toward them), so maybe it makes sense that they would care if one of their rivals died... but the last time they interacted on screen they were in a bar fight.
I thought he was called Bob at first when his name was said until I looked it up on Memory Alpha. lol
I admit, I had the same thought for a moment. I really thought one of them had called him Bobby.
I never said it was the point of the episode, just that people feel it when she dies. They feel it because they get to know her through out the episode. Which it the opposite of a Red Shirt death.
I’m not the biggest TOS-head so I haven’t seen the episode in ages, but the only thing I remember about her is that Kirk fell in love with her and that she is responsible for the Nazis winning.
Maybe she’s as important and memorable as say Lal was in that TNG episode, but even then I would say the tragedy of Data losing his “daughter” is what makes Lal memorable, not anything Lal does herself. Similarly Picard with his fake family from The Inner Light.
I may agree that these aren’t no name ensigns who die without a second thought, but they’re still written to be killed off by the end of the episode.
I would say B’avi dying is maybe like that cyborg officer from Discovery dying… she was just a random bridge crew extra who was around all the time, but at least they gave her a full episode before they killed her off.
Commander Hutchinson.Poor Commander Hutchins
And he was in charge of Arkaria base in "Starship Mine". As soon as he asked what was going on, he was shot and killed. As leader of that facility, he supposed to find out what the situation was. Geordi got lucky that the guy who shot him did not have his weapon set to kill, unlike the guy who shot Hutchinson.
And I don't see how being proficient at small talk has anything to do with a cadet or officer not being able to handle a crisis. In Hutchinson's case, he wasn't losing his cool. In the cadet's case in this episode, she was completely losing it, and was (correctly) removed from the bridge so the distractive element is gone and people can do their jobs.
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