Spoilers Star Trek: Picard 3x05 - "Imposters"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Commander Richard, Mar 15, 2023.

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  1. fireproof78

    fireproof78 Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    I think this comes with too much emotional baggage in the moment. With due respect, I do not care if you buy it or not. This isn't just a child but a child from a failed relationship that he had hoped would work. With someone he had not seen in 20 years, and he is getting much older, time is running shorter. This time is more personal, more valuable, and more difficult.
     
  2. Mr Awe

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    ^ This. I was going to write something similar but now I don't need to do so.

    I'll add, and I've said this before, the single biggest improvement for Picard S3 over P S2 and Discovery s3 & 4 is the excellent serialized writing. I think both series has had good writers. They could write good individual episodes. But they really fell down on the serialization part, which diminished entire seasons.

    (I actually called for them to ditch the serialized format because of that, and then came SNW.)

    But those problems all seem fixed with this season of Picard! Enjoying it immensely and without reservations!
     
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  3. Mr Awe

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    Agreed. It's childish.
     
  4. Mr Awe

    Mr Awe Vice Admiral Admiral

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    I'm loving the characters and story so far this season. Seems like they did create those first and foremost. Absolutely loving it. :shrug:
     
  5. fireproof78

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    Glad you are. :beer:
     
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  6. Guy Gardener

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    Two worlds writing a treaty together is two worlds formally agreeing on how they agree to respectfully interfere with each other.

    Killing dozens of people without permission, to rig an election is illegally interfering in the internal affairs of a sovereign power.

    Treaties are how every country on the planet initially negotiate with one another in the real world.
     
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  7. Nerys Myk

    Nerys Myk A Spock and a smile Premium Member

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    Need to know basis. JL didn't need to know, ;)
     
  8. Dukhat

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    Or just that continuity isn't these writers' strong suit. You know, like between Picard saying Starfleet has been his only family, and saying that Starfleet sucks and he wants nothing to do with them.
     
  9. fireproof78

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    It aren't that hard to imagine Picard playing to the audience, despite his personal pain from feeling betrayed by Starfleet.
     
  10. Lord Garth

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    Yeah, I agree. I have my own reasons for why I don't usually post in the SNW Forum (and I keep it to a minimum whenever I do), but that crap certainly doesn't help.
     
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  11. The Master of Tarquin Hill

    The Master of Tarquin Hill Commodore Commodore

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    Uhh, have you been in a family?
     
  12. 137th Gebirg

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    It is certainly a mixed bag.

    Of mixed nuts.
     
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  13. Crewman6

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    It's a pretty ridiculous story element to say that modern Starfleet officers think Picard (and Riker) were reckless cowboys. Particularly when Picard was often criticized by fans (at least in the early seasons) for being too staid and diplomatic and boring.

    But I just can't buy that Picard, the consummate diplomat and intellectual, has somehow earned a reputation for being a rootin', tootin' reckless loose cannon because he happened to be in the occasional ship battle.
     
  14. Crewman6

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    This is exactly what I was saying earlier in the week and got some hilarious responses to it. Yup, that is a major goof about changelings and one that was easily avoidable. Also incredibly stupid, too, if you think about it for five seconds. There's no way you'd be able to infiltrate an ice cream stand in the 24th Century if your masquerade was only surface-level, let alone the highest levels of the UFP and Romulan and Klingon Empires.

    Good call on the "All Good Things" business, too.

    The show loves its references, but gets things wrong about 50% of the time. It's not a good look.
     
  15. Orac Zen

    Orac Zen Mischief Manager Super Moderator

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    Because she very quickly realised that dating someone with a miniscule fraction of the personality and animation of a house brick was a complete and utter waste of her time. What more need be said about it? And 20-plus years later, what / why the hell does it matter?
     
  16. Ronin'sCreamyCandle

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    I feel the longer Seven is away from her Borg history the more generic a character she becomes. Shaw is far more interesting than Seven in this season. She was boring this episode. I also was saddened that Vadic was not given a scene in this episode.
     
  17. Guy Gardener

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    Until Picard, we had no choice but to believe that they were still together for 20 years, happily, and if anyone said any different, they were bitter twisted #ucks who do not believe in love.
     
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  18. Ronin'sCreamyCandle

    Ronin'sCreamyCandle Commander Red Shirt

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    My wife felt Chakotay was taking advantage of Seven as she experimented with dating. So she is glad they broke up.
     
  19. Dukhat

    Dukhat Admiral Admiral

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    That was not at all the context of the discussion.
     
  20. Guy Gardener

    Guy Gardener Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    You know she may have never have dated Flesh and Blood Chakotay?