Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"

There's another eugenics shitstorm that commences and coincides with other turmoil leading up to the nuclear exchange of 2053. Maybe Colonel Green's war since he seemed pretty dialed into purity and casting out the sick and injured after World War III.

 

Trivia about a TV show.

 

As I'm too fond of saying, continuity is mutable.

 

Nope.

That's not a "correct answer" on a history test. It was a TV trivia quiz.

Two Trek TV series in the last month have placed the Eugenics War in our future, and the producer of one has said that's deliberate and intentional.

Current Trek continuity is that it takes place in the 21st century.

 

Nope.

It's the Eugenics War and it's also World War III. Pike said so. And that both are one war was established in "Space Seed" itself.

 

What I'm saying is that what "The Cage" implies is distinct from and in this case broader than what Pike's dialog implies.

You'd said that "'The Cage' implies" something as if it didn't imply more as well, and that's what I was responding to. To say that "The Cage" implies something (or doesn't imply it), you have to take into account not only the text, but the subtext, the context, and so on.

As far was what Pike believes, of course what you say is true.

And as pointed out by another poster, Number One could still be covering up not being human when she says it's wrong to keep humans as slaves. It's consistent with the dialog that Number One isn't human. Absolutely.

 

Only SNW has said that definitively.

PIC was vague about it. There were dates on the file folder that lined up with the years the original Eugenics Wars took place.

 

I feel unfairly maligned here...

 

canonical source please

there ya go

 

Episode 1 of this series. Pike said the instability in the United States came before the Eugenics wars. Showing footage from the Capitol insurrection that happened in the 21st century.

 

Episode one of SNW. Episode 10 of the second year of Picard.

Next.

 

Debatable.

 

From Ep1: "...we called it the second Civil War, then the Eugenics War and finally, just World War III"

Sounds to me like Pike is describing three separate wars. Otherwise it seems strange to keep renaming a war unless it went on for a really long time.

 

Each one blending into the next.
You can make a case for the US civil rights struggles from the 1960's onwards being a "second Civil War" writ quietly...depending on your point of view.

 

Not realistically or sensibly, no. "Debatable" in the sense of "how many tetryon particles does it take to fill a cargo bay?" perhaps. And I know that some Trekkies like to do just that.

That quote directly contradicts your assertion. "It" is a singular thing, not a plural or series or group. "It" indicates something considered a single war, and nothing else.

More importantly, it requires a metric fuckton of tetryon particles to fill the cargo bay of the original configuration of the Constitution class cargo bay, as designed.

You know, it's beyond absurd that anyone even wants to defend the bullshit notion that there was a Eugenics War in the 1990s that ended with a bunch of Hitlers shooting themselves into outer space to avoid justice. Thankfully, TPTB are trying to lay that one to rest.

 

There's evidence in the Picard episode supporting the Eugenics wars having happened in the 90s.

 

A paper file that contained the final report on a project that ended in 1996, not a report on a war. Those are very different things, though I'm sure you'll handwave it all away.