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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 3x04 - "A Space Adventure Hour"

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and to all TOS fans.
This TOS fan was not insulted.

Perhaps this episode was the SNW creators’s way of telling the audience that they’ll give the fans what they want so that they (the creators) can make a living, but they think it is beneath them.
What a bullshit statement and it assumes a state of mind not anywhere close to what of shared by the producers.
SNW generally emphasizes entertaining stories. That is their purpose. They have thinly-veiled social messages like TOS did, but they are secondary to the story
That was TOS purpose too, straight out of the writer's bible. Entertainment first.
 
Perhaps this episode was the SNW creators’s way of telling the audience that they’ll give the fans what they want so that they (the creators) can make a living, but they think it is beneath them.
I don't think this is their intent at all - the parody clearly has come across as tone-deaf to many people (including me), but it's definitely not a case of them going "we hate TOS, we hate you, here's us taking the piss".

The worst you could say - and the explanation I'd probably go with - is that some of the production staff on SNW feel that their show is offering a modernised "update" to TOS, and that the original is campy and dated by comparison, which is a lame attitude to have, but their intention was definitely fond satire rather than cruel mockery. They just botched the execution for some viewers.
 
^ This. I have a hard time seeing the whole thing as an intended affront to the original show or its fans (even though I personally think they could have done a better job at it). They obviously love the original Star Trek and I don’t detect any malice whatsoever in the way they spoofed TOS.
 
I'm an old TOS fan for whom TOS is still my favorite Star Trek franchise series I've said my piece on it earlier in this thread; and I'm one of those TOS fans who really did not like this episode.

My primary complaint is that I feel it was laughing at it and not with it with this particular parody take. And yes as someone else mentioned above they played the Trek parody more like something from the schlock science fiction serials and TV series of the 40s and 50s then the actual Star Trek of the '60s.:shrug:
I saw TOS first run. Lifelong fan. This show is literally at the bottom of the list. Not respectful (SNL did better) not funny and the murder mystery was boring. And unrealistic - there’s a second death and no one call police, they just film the show? Complete piece of crap.

I have been a big SNW fan and loved some of the other episodes. Had they played 60s Trek straight maybe this would be fair. They didn’t. The Uhura speech sounded like a fan speech from a convention. The episode was far too meta, and I can’t imagine a newish fan thinking anything but this was hot garbage. So count an oldish fan, me, with the same hot garbage thought. Not worth the episode.
 
I saw TOS first run. Lifelong fan. This show is literally at the bottom of the list. Not respectful (SNL did better) not funny and the murder mystery was boring. And unrealistic - there’s a second death and no one call police, they just film the show? Complete piece of crap.

I have been a big SNW fan and loved some of the other episodes. Had they played 60s Trek straight maybe this would be fair. They didn’t. The Uhura speech sounded like a fan speech from a convention. The episode was far too meta, and I can’t imagine a newish fan thinking anything but this was hot garbage. So count an oldish fan, me, with the same hot garbage thought. Not worth the episode.

Oh, for Ghu's sake, the murder mystery aspect wasn't meant to provide you, the viewer, an actual well-crafted mystery to solve. It was a role-playing scenario - a game that played with the tropes of mysteries in popular entertainment. It's not meant to be a realistic Jack Webb police procedural. If I had a dollar every time there was a second or third death among the suspects and the police weren't called in a detective series scenario like this, I would have a nice chunk of change. And, no, no-one continued filming the show after either the initial death or the second one, the entire mystery RPG scenario took place at an isolated mansion on one night; any footage from "The Last Frontier" we saw in the game was filmed before the initial establishing murder took place.

Media literacy is dead.
 
As is imagination, apparently. Why can’t the murder mystery be well-crafted with an interesting twist for us viewers AND still be meant to be a pulp-y role-playing scenario in-universe? I absolutely don’t agree that the episode was a “complete piece of crap”, nor do I give a shit about whether the scenario was realistic or not. But I too think the murder mystery portions were just super lame and uninspired. As in not entertaining for me as viewer. Is it too much to ask for the entertainment I’m watching to be entertaining? Am I “media illiterate” because I wanted the episode to be more clever?
 
I don't think this is their intent at all - the parody clearly has come across as tone-deaf to many people (including me), but it's definitely not a case of them going "we hate TOS, we hate you, here's us taking the piss".

The worst you could say - and the explanation I'd probably go with - is that some of the production staff on SNW feel that their show is offering a modernised "update" to TOS, and that the original is campy and dated by comparison, which is a lame attitude to have, but their intention was definitely fond satire rather than cruel mockery. They just botched the execution for some viewers.
I thought that elements of the show were peering through the fourth wall. Wesley's Shatner parody wasn't disrespecting Shatner, it was a tongue in cheek response to people who have been claiming, ever since he appeared, that Wesley's performance is nothing like Shatner. It was very deliberately pitched as OTT precisely because Wesley ISN'T playing Shatner.
 
I enjoyed this one! The only drawback was that it was basically "Elementary, Dear Data", even down to the line "... program an adversary capable of defeating Data La'an". Aside from that, I thought the parody on TOS production was hilarious and the characters were perfect. And lots of nods to Trekdom: Pike Roddenberry's line "No one respects my vision!", Wesley attempting the Riker maneuvre into the captain's chair in the credits (nod also to episode director Frakes!), etc...
 
Thus far, I have found every episode of Season Three to be quite enjoyable. This one was particularly entertaining, with some fun moments but some good character-building exercises too.
 
None this season have been outright disappointing. The Gorn season premiere is my least favorite so far.
 
None this season have been outright disappointing. The Gorn season premiere is my least favorite so far.
My favorites this season have mostly been the divisive "fun" ones. Of the darker episodes, I enjoyed "The Sehlat that Ate its Tail" and "Shuttle to Kenfori" the most. My least favorites so far this season have been " Through the Lens of Time" and "Hegemony part 2."

"Sehlat," "Space Adventure Hour," and "Wedding Bell Blues" are the ones I throw on for a rewatch when bored.

What can I say? TOS Season Two under Gene Coon and John Meredith Lucas is my favorite classic season.
 
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