Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[The Wormhole]

The minuses for me are all about the expansive feel to the sets. It doesn't feel like a submarine in space like it did in TOS. Everything just feels bigger inside and everyone feels fine beaming all over the ship. It's more restrained than Discovery was but it still feels a bit too free with the technology.

Never got a submarine is space vibe from the TOS sets.

While I wouldn't say "submarine in space" the impression I got from TOS is that the Enterprise was meant to be a rather utilitarian environment, which I will admit SNW doesn't really convey. I personally find the quarters are too huge. Admittedly, when designing the sets they probably were thinking "this is the flagship, it should be expansive and have some oomph" and with that mentality, yes, the sets make perfect sense. Though if I were trying to copy the utilitarian environment of TOS I'd have probably made Pike's quarters something the size of the quarters we saw Uhura sharing with her roommates, and make everyone else's smaller.

But no one woke me up in the middle of the night for an opinion on how to build the sets.

 

[cooleddie74]

The NX-01 was the submarine in space. The TOS Enterprise was more of a late 20th century office building with soft lighting. The TNG Enterprise was a 1980s hotel lobby and suites.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I thought the Botany Bay was a submarine in space.

 

[Mudd]

The TOS Enterprise was meant to be a spartan, efficient environment.

The SNW have been wise to recognize from the outset that you can't really unwind the impact of TNG on the franchise. Two generations of viewers have grown up with the 24th century Trek environments as their touchstones for what the "Trek universe" is like. These producers have backed up from that era in important, meaningful ways, but to really recreate TOS would be a mistake.

 

[Turtletrekker]

The TNG Enterprise was a 1980s hotel lobby and suites.

"The Love Boat in Space" is what a lot of people called it at the time. Complete with comparisons of having a bald Captain Picard to bald Captain Stubing.

 

[cooleddie74]

The bridge had that lush carpeted hotel lobby feel to it. Which is fine. By Picard's time ships like the Galaxy-class were about comfort and a pleasant work environment as much as they were about exploration and defense. The flagship of the Federation should ideally be warm and welcoming.

 

[Noname Given]

The TOS Enterprise was meant to be a spartan, efficient environment.

The SNW have been wise to recognize from the outset that you can't really unwind the impact of TNG on the franchise. Two generations of viewers have grown up with the 24th century Trek environments as their touchstones for what the "Trek universe" is like. These producers have backed up from that era in important, meaningful ways, but to really recreate TOS would be a mistake.

Honestly I think it's more:
In the 60s TV was on a 4:3 screen and the sets were designed an dressed for that situation.

In the 80s when TNG hit; they were reusing the ST:TMP film sets (and even shooting some scenes with/in wide-screen format with an intent to crop to 4:3).

But now, with HD/4K and everything in some form of wide-screen format. any modern production needs sets that accommodate, and look good in that format so yeah, all the sets are going to be larger in scope to fill the screen.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Honestly I think it's more:
In the 60s TV was on a 4:3 screen and the sets were designed an dressed for that situation.

In the 80s when TNG hit; they were reusing the ST:TMP film sets (and even shooting some scenes with/in wide-screen format with an intent to crop to 4:3).

But now, with HD/4K and everything in some form of wide-screen format. any modern production needs sets that accommodate, and look good in that format so yeah, all the sets are going to be larger in scope to fill the screen.

I think I've read something to that effect from a producer.

 

[Tuskin38]

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[Tuskin38]

We're going to get to see the shuttlebay and a nacelle room next season
https://variety.com/2022/artisans/n...gned-star-trek-strange-new-worlds-1235326096/

 

[The Wormhole]

I didn't even realize until now we hadn't seen the shuttlebay in season 1.

 

[NCC-73515]

“We were all of the mind that the Enterprise is a star of the show,” Lee explains. “It’s a major player. It’s an actor, really."

 

[Tuskin38]

“We were all of the mind that the Enterprise is a star of the show,” Lee explains. “It’s a major player. It’s an actor, really."

Give it up jeeze.

Not everyone agrees and that’s fine.


BoP bridge pictures
https://twitter.com/timothypeel1/status/1554949149388378114?s=21&t=IXPcicu6j2-SaNtxU3f1Iw

 

[fireproof78]

“We were all of the mind that the Enterprise is a star of the show,” Lee explains. “It’s a major player. It’s an actor, really."

And can be recast.

 

[Mudd]

And can be recast.

 

[Nerys Myk]

"Thank for coming in, But we're going with someone younger."

 

[cooleddie74]

"Those pylons need work."

 

[NCC-73515]

Give it up jeeze.

Not everyone agrees and that’s fine.


BoP bridge pictures
https://twitter.com/timothypeel1/status/1554949149388378114?s=21&t=IXPcicu6j2-SaNtxU3f1Iw

what's wrong with new quotes that people freshly said? tell them to stop saying things and I won't have things to quote

 

[DaveyNY]

"Those pylons need work."

They don't look anorexic enough to me.

 

[Jayson1]

If I have a issue with the SNW sets it wouldn't be so much the size but how many lights are everywhere on the ship. Discovery is basically pitch black and with SNW everything is lit like a Christmas Tree. Do you really need light fixtures in the steps on the bridge and transporter pad? It seems fine to have some walls that isn't carrying a light fixture or computer panel.