It's not? How so? What is the great continuity of Robert April that is known in canon (that's very important) that his current presentation takes away from?
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It is now. Look, it was jarring the first few seconds I saw the announcement and I was like: "that's not what he looked like in TAS!" But it passed. And there are practical ways to reconcile it.
Let me tell you a story about Nerdrage.
Remember when a certain modern TV series brought back a popular bounty hunter many thought died in a movie made 40 years ago? And then made him nicer and more compromising and less of a murderous death machine? He even had a cuddly pet dungeon beast? Yeah. This April stuff will wear off at some point.
Most of it does.
Remember when a certain modern TV series brought back a popular bounty hunter many thought died in a movie made 40 years ago? And then made him nicer and more compromising and less of a murderous death machine? He even had a cuddly pet dungeon beast? Yeah. This April stuff will wear off at some point.
Most of it does.
I remember the toxic crap on the usenets about Sisko, and how outrageous it was for them to put a "split-tail" in command of Voyager. People sometimes try to be a little more artful these days when communicating their prejudices, but rings clearly anyway.
I've never complained about it, and no one I know has ever complained about it. He was a great character and a great actor. I'm sure that it is true, that diversity is the reason for the casting, as I'm sure was the case for Janeway, but I would never feel that it detracts from the characters. DS9 is in my top 3 Trek shows. I dislike Voyager, but not because of Janeway. I've never complained about Michael, or Book, or any other diverse character on Star Trek. I will ALWAYS complain when ANY show changes canon, gender or race for absolutely no reason, when there were viable characters available that we would all love to see. The ones that see race in everything, are the ones making the changes to begin with. Race is irrelevant. Continuity, on the other hand, is not, IMO.
???? I'm drawing a blank.
Please enlighten me, age has dulled my quick wit.
BTW: I thought Avery Brooks was a Fantastic addition to the Trek mythos.
Really? Let me ask you: if the next Bond was black, would that change anything about the character, to say nothing about changing it "completely"? What is it about April that allows you to completely change their face but not their skin colour? I mean, if we were talking about Shaft, sure, but April?
Except that the race is the thing you're complaining about.
Interesting. You've completely sidestepped my question about M'Benga's skin tone. He's obviously a lot darker than what we've seen in TOS. Does that not count as a completely different character now, especially since his personality is different?
WHEN does it become a reboot? Did the new props and uniforms and sets and effects and ship designs not count? The skin colour of a character we've ever only seen once in a cartoon before is the point as which you say it's too much????
Hawk from Spenser: For Hire.
I hear he went on to make a mean jambalaya for people with funny foreheads.
Ahhh ... I remember that show now, but I didn't really watch it other than an episode or two.
(and didn't know they had remade it)
I think it was The Book of Bongo Fartt. Maybe.
Heh ... I don't know what the FuK that is either.
I have read The Book of Bunny Farts though.
Mr. Feet. Mr. Bob A. Feet?
This thread will rule with respect.
Oh, who am I kidding.
Oh, who am I kidding.
That's him!
The man in the helmet.
No, not Bob the Builder. Bob's killed more people.
No, not Bob the Builder. Bob's killed more people.
I've always felt that Bob the Builder is a Doozer in disguise.
Dance your cares away.
Because later Bob dances YOU away.
Because later Bob dances YOU away.
Yes, Race is the problem, as in it was changed from Caucasian to Black.
TAS was/is/could be Canon, in that series, he was drawn as a white male age 75. So the character was established as a white male.
Them changing the character to a black man for SNW is a problem, as they already established he was white in TAS.
It would be like, Hey this is Commodore Stocker, but played by an Filipino. Hey he was a minor character, so we can recast him to whomever we like. Nope. Invent another character or chose a old character that was the race you want.
Does that mean I'm raycist because a black man was cast? Nope, if they wanted a person of color, they could have gotten any number of already established black admirals/commodores, or invented an new out out of whole cloth. Honestly it would have been more refreshing if they cast someone from Turkey, or Greece, or Iran for the diversity hire. Would it have still been wrong? Yep, but i would have applauded them a bit for not going the black route for POC.
They didn't NEED to change his color, but for diversity sake? it was changed.. Why? there's no point to it. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of 60 ish white Canadien actors at the time.
Owell, its done, I can't change it, but I can point it out and be disappointed in them.
TAS was/is/could be Canon, in that series, he was drawn as a white male age 75. So the character was established as a white male.
Them changing the character to a black man for SNW is a problem, as they already established he was white in TAS.
It would be like, Hey this is Commodore Stocker, but played by an Filipino. Hey he was a minor character, so we can recast him to whomever we like. Nope. Invent another character or chose a old character that was the race you want.
Does that mean I'm raycist because a black man was cast? Nope, if they wanted a person of color, they could have gotten any number of already established black admirals/commodores, or invented an new out out of whole cloth. Honestly it would have been more refreshing if they cast someone from Turkey, or Greece, or Iran for the diversity hire. Would it have still been wrong? Yep, but i would have applauded them a bit for not going the black route for POC.
They didn't NEED to change his color, but for diversity sake? it was changed.. Why? there's no point to it. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of 60 ish white Canadien actors at the time.
Owell, its done, I can't change it, but I can point it out and be disappointed in them.
