Shame on you, SNW. Shame. I hope you think about what you've done...
Add this to the "I don't get it " pile.
Add this to the "I don't get it " pile.
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He's younger, that changes his birth year, which counts as backstory.
It's not a great fit with the old money/large Scottish family estate background.
Yes, just like we've established that Christopher Pike looks like Jeff Hunter and NOT like Anson Mount. That's an unacceptable change to the -- JUST STOP COMPLAINING ABOUT TRIVIAL STUFF.
Look at the things you're complaing about, and think about what it looks like from outside.
What are you talking about?
Well, let's look at the known datapoints for April from TAS. He's 75 in that episode, placing his birth year in 2195. The first season of SNW happens in 2259 or thereabouts, making April roughly 64 if they more or less adhere to the fact he's older than Pike and enough so to pull the seniority card on him. Now, I don't know about you but a lot of black men look pretty middle-aged in their sixties. April in the new series could well be born before the start of the 23rd century.
This April could definitely be a man in his sixties. His beard is pretty white.
This April could definitely be a man in his sixties. His beard is pretty white.
How is it "a completely different character?" I've seen the character's first appearance on SNW. If he is married to "Sarah," she is not with him on duty. Is he younger than Cartoon April? Maybe, maybe not - this series takes place as many as ten years before "The Counter-Clock Incident."
So he's not a different character in any particular definite way, and he's certainly not "a completely different character." So you can just get off that tack right now.
No. This is the 23rd century, about five or six years before Kirk takes command of Enterprise. This is Enterprise. This is Pike, Number One, Spock, M'Benga, etc.
"Why do things look different?"
Because 1965 cannot be the 23rd century any more.
Period.
Is he, now?
- Exactly how old is April in the cartoon?
- Exactly how old is April in SNW?
- What year does that cartoon take place in?
- Exactly what year does SNW take place?
The character of April may be anywhere between his mid-fifties to sometime in his sixties, in SNW. He is said to be 75 years old in a cartoon that takes place as much as ten years later. You can argue that there's an age disparity here, but you can't establish it as in-universe fact.
April was the first Captain of the Enterprise. Apparently, he still is. At 75, he will be married to Sarah. That is the extent of April's backstory.
And it doesn't matter, anyway. Adrian Holmes plays the same Robert April who has been referenced in previous Trek.
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He's 75 in TAS so, minus say 10 years, that would be 65. Its a minor thing, just like how the actor for Kirk they cast is 10 years To Old, Kirk should be under 30 at this time. Details can be smoothed over, but details do matter.
If he's about sixtysomething with a white beard and he's old enough to be Pike's father or older brother then those are all the details that matter. Because then it lines up with TAS.
Fans really, really need to understand that. The series will not and cannot be made solely for fans who live in the past. It has to aim for pleasing _most_ fans (who are not that nitpicky) while snatching as large a general audience as possible.
It isn't made for the nitpickers, and I include myself in that group. One can either refuse to adapt and hate everything about the new series, or just accept that this is part of long-running franchises and enjoy the show.
I did not
Please burn this for me.
Your calligraphy is stunning.
Sadly, I can tell you didn't write that. 10 point deduction.
No, you’re open to being perceived as racist because you use expressions like “diversity hire”.
That's a fair point. He could pass for 64.
You asked about if making James Bond black changed his character. I said it's not a great fit for the history of his family we have been given. Moneyed Scottish landowners being a notoriously white group.
I couldn't find a chicken scratch font. And trust me, "chicken scratch" is underselling how horrible my handwriting is.
Actor age doesn't mean anything, Patrick Stewart was 20 years younger than Picard.
Plus the preview photos we got of him, he looks older than Pike, old enough to be an Admiral.
Actor's age means squat. Makeup can make people look younger or older.
Does the actor playing Kirk look older than TOS era Shatner in the one picture we got? No he doesn't.
Sorry, my bad. With all the back-and-forths I lost track of that subplot! :P
Anyway I think it'd be a minor issue to circumvent.
I think Robert seems older than Pike because he gives off this paternal vibe in their scenes together.
My handwriting has been described as "fly paws", a common expression over here.I couldn't find a chicken scratch font. And trust me, "chicken scratch" is underselling how horrible my handwriting is.
