Favorite AND least Favorite Female Character?

[Bad Thoughts]

I'm sure that Seven of Nine will remain controversial for a long time. I am personally not a fan of the outfit, but I don't hold that against the actress or the character. It was the type of character that writers would gravitate toward, having some interesting sci-fi concepts backing it up. Moreover, it was a place for the writers to go given that the studio and producers greatly limited what the writers could do with human characters. The scripts were original and tough. The work environment was hostile. Ryan succeeded in spite of those difficulties.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I'm sure that Seven of Nine will remain controversial for a long time. I am personally not a fan of the outfit, but I don't hold that against the actress or the character. It was the type of character that writers would gravitate toward, having some interesting sci-fi concepts backing it up. Moreover, it was a place for the writers to go given that the studio and producers greatly limited what the writers could do with human characters. The scripts were original and tough. The work environment was hostile. Ryan succeeded in spite of those difficulties.

I'm with you on this.

It's really annoying that when you say you're a fan of the character, you always have to qualify that it isn't for eye candy reasons (I also hated the catsuits). That's not why I watch television programmes. It's partly a problem with the kind of society we live in.

 

[Discofan]

I'm sure that Seven of Nine will remain controversial for a long time. I am personally not a fan of the outfit, but I don't hold that against the actress or the character. It was the type of character that writers would gravitate toward, having some interesting sci-fi concepts backing it up. Moreover, it was a place for the writers to go given that the studio and producers greatly limited what the writers could do with human characters. The scripts were original and tough. The work environment was hostile. Ryan succeeded in spite of those difficulties.

I've heard that the actress hated the outfit and would have preferred to wear normal clothes.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I've heard that the actress hated the outfit and would have preferred to wear normal clothes.

She looked awesome in a regular uniform in episodes like "Relativity"

 

[Discofan]

She looked awesome in a regular uniform in episodes like "Relativity"

Yes, she really didn't need the skin-tight ensemble to look sexy.

 

[johnnybear]

Yes, she really didn't need the skin-tight ensemble to look sexy.

She was okay but not awe inspiring for me to be honest not like most of the actresses who appeared on TOS!
JB

 

[guyute03]

I will be completely honest here, I can't stand Deanna Troi. Arrogant, thinks she's knows everything and has no issue insulting anyone she feels like with no regard for anyone's feelings. "Pedantic Psycho-babble" nails it. And watching her get dressed down by Captain Jelicho was long overdue. I don't blame the actor, Marina Sirtis is great, and was wonderful in the Mass Effect games series as well, I blame the 1980's obsession with Psychiatry and forcing it on everyone. Thankfully that is not so pronounced an aspect of our current age. It is very 80's, and it infuriates me how much Picard pulls her into the ready room to talk about his feelings.

BTW, I do not condemn anyone who needs counseling in their real lives. We all have problems to deal with, and I also have seen one when I was a kid. No offense meant to anyone by this.

 

[Bad Thoughts]

It's really annoying that when you say you're a fan of the character, you always have to qualify that it isn't for eye candy reasons (I also hated the catsuits). That's not why I watch television programmes. It's partly a problem with the kind of society we live in.

As I get older, I don't want to become one of those men who constantly comments on what girls and young women are wearing. It's their lives, and it's none of my business if the cut of the clothing is too low or too high. However, they made the sexuality of Seven of Nine central to the appearance of the character. Look, this beautiful woman in a super skin-tight, bodiced outfit is playing a sexually repressed character! That really plays to the worst of male fantasies.And I feel that it detracts from our ability to talk about the series. Not every story written for Seven of Nine exploited the character's unusual sexuality, and a few used it to comment on the sexualization of women. On the other hand, there is a long list of Star Trek character from almost all series, male and female, whose sexuality could have been better explored. (For instance, I was annoyed that we always hear about Denobulian mating practices but never really see Phlox putting them to practice.)

 

[RPOW0614]

Favs:
Captain Janeway,
Sub Commander T'pol
Romulan commander played by actress Joanne Linville.
Lieutenant Commander Shelby

Least favs:
Kes
Early Troi

 

[USS Triumphant]

(For instance, I was annoyed that we always hear about Denobulian mating practices but never really see Phlox putting them to practice.)

To be fair, I think that was where the Ensign Cutler / Phlox storyline was just starting to head when the beautiful and talented actress who played Elizabeth Cutler, Kellie Waymire, tragically had her life cut short by an undiagnosed cardiac arrhythmia. (I was pretty fond of the character, and had Waymire lived, I'm fairly certain she'd be my answer when asked for favorite Enterprise character and also favorite female character in the franchise - but I'll never be sure, now.)

 

[valkyrie013]

Most of the actresses were great in Star Trek, even the guest stars. The problem usually ends up out of there hands.. There Scripts! (and to a less degree, there clothing.) Troi suffered from bad scripts alot, but when she was well written, she was quite good, same for most of the actors and actresses. Hoshi was a good character with a good actress, but they gave her crap scripts.. shame really.
So, most favorite
Seven of Nine, Yes I know, cat suit, but she had the best scripts of any female in the series, her sexyness was never really a part of what was happening (usually)
Worst
Janeway, props for Kate Mulgrew, love her, but ugh.. her character was a narsistic, my way or the high way, jerk.. Year of Hell was the Penultimate proof of her dictatorship.. I'm going through your space weither you like it or not! ugh.. She has her good moments, good episodes, but over all, Worst Captain .. I mean she NEVER promoted poor Ensign Kim.. Paris got promoted, busted, and promoted again.. Kim? Kim who??

 

[Discofan]

I agree that Janeway was far from being the best female character in ST. She was all in all dictatorial, arrogant and usually neglected anyone's opinion unless it coincided with her own. When she decided to collaborate with the borg it was against the opinion of everyone, including Chakotay's.

 

[WinterSoldier]

I've heard that the actress hated the outfit and would have preferred to wear normal clothes.

Apparently she passed out more than once, and couldn't even sit down during her break times in the bloody thing

 

[Discofan]

Apparently she passed out more than once, and couldn't even sit down during her break times in the bloody thing

A bloody thing that ironically hindered blood circulation!

 

[Refuge]

I don't understand people's dislike for Dr. Crusher. Other than her spawning Wesley, of course.

I didn't mind Dr. Crusher. TNG finally upped the balance by having a female in a regular role as a doctor. Obviously Voyager finally gave us a female Captain and although that didn't sit comfortably with some viewers she gets thumbs up from me Yet I cannot stand Michael from Discovery, she's tedious.

 

[Discofan]

I didn't mind Dr. Crusher. TNG finally upped the balance by having a female in a regular role as a doctor. Obviously Voyager finally gave us a female Captain and although that didn't sit comfortably with some viewers she gets thumbs up from me Yet I cannot stand Michael from Discovery, she's tedious.

Funny, I like Michael more than the other two.

 

[sekundant]

Favorite ones: T'Pol, she is a real female and a stark and intelligent one. She can act, if it is necessary against from Vulcan High Council to her Captain. She is a "natural born" warrior, privately and professional. Just like Ro Laren. I think to reduce her only a carbon copy of Seven (which is also a stark female) at least possible to reduce both characters and two fantastic actresses to their physical features. Yes, they are "eye candies" but, they are more than this. There are many woman who are attractive, smart and stark at the same time and it can be dangerous guys, to take them in with only one of these qualities. Nevertheless, a part of audience hat this tendency, I assume that was the reason why Nimoy after very attractive Kristie Alley's Saavik, made the replacement Robin Curtis very masculine to be taken seriously. As a known trekkie, Jolene Blalock gave us best female Vulcan version, despite of all those weak scripts, imho.

Least favorites: Janeway. To make her a stark leader, TPTB let her mimicks first a savage man leader, but that was not enough, they go to next level made her a psychopath. If I serve under her reign, I would organize sure a mutiny for the sake of all humankind and both quadrants. She was not only incompetent, she was literally dangerous.
The next one is Kira, sorry guys, you do not need to discuss, if she is terrorist or not, she called herself more than once terrorist, which is for me made the character unbelievable as a freedom fighter. Also she reacted sometimes very awkward for a experienced warrior. And she was religious, I have nothing against to being religious, but totally against to being blind religious and take own religion as only right one, which she was. So last thing was Micky Mouse voice of Nana Visitor, just like Kate Mulgrew's. My ears bleed every time when they began to cry.
My least female character for all times is Troi. She was only eye candy on the way with 50 IQ and more less EQ to be a someone who council the people. The writer did not even try to give her a little bit scientific back round, you can get better council at the subway from your sit neighbor. She should be only beautiful (not my taste, but it is only my taste) not more. Sirtis played her with very bored silly look and zero passion.

 

[Discofan]

The problem with Janeway is that for most of the Voyager run she was basically a military dictator. It's hard to look good in that role!

 

[Admiral2]

The problem with Janeway is that for most of the Voyager run she was basically a military dictator. It's hard to look good in that role!

Y'Know, people keep talking about Janeway's tendency to assert her absolute authority like it's her biggest problem, but it's not. Her biggest problem was she was a moron. If she'd made one decision that didn't continually get her ship in trouble one week to the next or actually managed to get them home before they were all declared legally dead (or, you know, not get them trapped half a galaxy away in the first place) nobody would care how she exercised her rightful authority.

She was the captain. She was not obligated to check her decisions with the rest of the crew. That she was a crap captain doesn't change that.

 

[Refuge]

Y'Know, people keep talking about Janeway's tendency to assert her absolute authority like it's her biggest problem...

She was the captain. She was not obligated check her decisions with the rest of the crew.

Fuck yeah. I mean seriously does any Captain, does a male Captain feel the need to run his command like a democracy? No he would not.