Fan reactions to Starfleet Academy's female Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid character

[Uncle Sock]

This is true. But, I'm one who only needs one episode to be in to a character. And, conversely, one episode can make a character less savory and diminish a series.

I'm the same. I liked Airiam and Ortegas from the very beginning. Still, it would have been nice to find out more about them.

 

[Quantum21]

It's not unlikely...In fact it is very likely a large percentage of negativity is bots and the like. There's some recent media news on this subject in popular culture.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I didn't not like those either. I just wish they had been given the chance to shine a little more. But unfortunately there's only so much you can do with 10-episode-seasons.

Or a 36 episode season. (See Sulu and Uhura)

Only one episode. We still know next to nothing about her.

We know more about her than a lot of Trek characters,

 

[Lobo]

I don't understand all this hate/vitriol online suddenly about the female Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid character from Starfleet Academy. People saying: "oh there can't be a female Jem'Hadar because the Jem'Hadar were all males". In the 24th century. There were no female Jem'Hadar in the 24th century because they were all genetically engineered (essentially clones "bred" not born) to be male. The Dominion genetically engineered the Jem'Hadar to be super soldiers and engineered/cloned them all to be male (being clones there was no need for women, also the Dominion mindset at the time being that having women would have made them weak). Things change over 800+ years. After returning to the Great Link Odo could have changed the Dominion and ultimately caused them to decide to clone female Jem'Hadar. For all we know the Dominion as it was in the 24th century may not even exist in the 32nd century. A female Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid character is an interesting idea for a character actually, seeing that both species are warrior, just warriors with slightly different ethos. Saying that because the Jem'Hadar were the way they were in DS9 means they can't be any different in Starfleet Academy makes absolutely no sense. By that logic a group of people who were a certain way in the 1200's at the time of the high middle ages and the crusades HAVE to be exactly that same way today in the 2000's.

Some pedants also point out that the actress has a "large body size" and say "Klingons and Jem'Hadar are warriors! They're all fit and have great physiques!" There have been plenty of heavy-set Klingons in Star Trek (General Koord in ST: V, Chancellor K'mpek from TNG, the chef at the Klingon restaurant in DS9 season 2 to name but a few). The character being heavyset is such a non-issue, and if she is the product of a union between an Jem'Hadar and a Klingon, there is no reason she couldn't have inherited the genes for larger body size.

People complain because of something that is new and different being done in a new Star trek series that is set in a timeframe beyond anything that's been seen so far. And they complain because this character is part Jem'Hadar and yet not like the Jem'Hadar in DS9 800 years past. A LOT can change in 800 years. I think Star Trek would be a lot less believable if nothing had changed after 800 years. These same people say this is an example of Star Trek's creative powers ignoring canon. It's not. It's building canon. Nothing about this character contradicts, retcons, or otherwise disrespects canon.

And then there's all the people saying that it's part of "the woke agenda". No it's not. It's just a character. Yet it's obviously played by a black woman and a person with some body size. So what? Why does/should that matter? Honestly all the hate/outrage over the character BEFORE the show has even premiered: much ado about nothing. I have a better idea: how about let's not go Green Eggs and Ham and actually wait until the series premieres and we actually see the character before passing judgement.

Hi there,
I think you're completly right. U made a very interesting point. Who nows what became of the Jem Hadar after the Dominion. They might just evolved into their own race. As Dr. Malcom in Jurassic Park said ''life finds a way'' and those Dinosaurs where also cloned creatures. Yes different circumstances. But we talk about Science Fiction. So everything should be possible.
Yes i love TNG and DS9 and Voyager etc. And yes i liked the more true to the source shows better than most of the new stuff. But that's no reason not to try to enjoy the new stuff. Better than having the franchise die out.

For the record. I found it worse that they made Q mortal and die in Picard than anything else ever including the entire Kelvin timeline. But i was still happy to see him again.
I say. Let's try to enjoy what we get. Who knows for how long they will even keep bothering with the franchise. I hope forever of course. But realisticly it doesn't look to good i fear.

 

[Lobo]

Too reasonable for fandom, sadly. This is the same fandom with members that got mad at TNG as it didn't feature Kirk and Spock, or that hated the "change for the sake of change" with Klingon make up in TMP.

"People can be very frightened of change."

Ironic isn't it. that this is the Star Trek fanbase tho. Since the lessions that Star Trek teaches us is mostly to embrace the new tge unknown and change. Lol
''Where no man has gone bevor?''

 

[Tuskin38]

I found it worse that they made Q mortal and die in Picard than anything else ever including the entire Kelvin timeline.

Q wasn't mortal, and Voyager showed that the Q could die.

 

[Lobo]

Q wasn't mortal, and Voyager showed that the Q could die.

No the voyager showed exactly the opposide. They allowed that one q to become mortal. Wich could only be done with the support of the continoum. Since he more than once tryed to kill himself unsuccessfull creating catastrophies. Hence why he was imprisoned. Ergo the entire essence of the Q is being Immortal. And all of a sudden Q dies from old age? Just doesn't make any sense and goes agains everything Q stood for. But as i said. I was just happy to see him again. Should it have been written better? Of course. But i still try to like it for what it is bcs i won't get to see him again after that. All in all the Picard Show could have been better. But it could have been worse to.

 

[Tuskin38]

No the voyager showed exactly the opposide

Voyager showed Q killing other Q in their civil war.

 

[Lobo]

Q wasn't mortal, and Voyager showed that the Q could die.

Also yes he kinda was. The defenition of mortal is being able to die. Wich Q did in picard. Hence he became mortal somehow. Wich should technically not be possible.

Voyager showed Q killing other Q in their civil war.

Yes but there was no other Q in Picard using a Q weapon to kill him. And in Voyager that was exclusivly happen inside the Q-Continium. And none of them was loosing controle over their powers due to age. Like they did to him in picard. End of the day. What happened in picard should not have been possible.

 

[Lobo]

Voyager showed Q killing other Q in their civil war.

But don't get me wrong. It's not that important. I was just happy to see him again. I liked the last season of picard the best though. Seeing TNG crew reunited had me tear up like a little boy again. Totally loved that.

 

[Fateor]

Yes but there was no other Q in Picard using a Q weapon to kill him. And in Voyager that was exclusivly happen inside the Q-Continium. And none of them was loosing controle over their powers due to age. Like they did to him in picard. End of the day. What happened in picard should not have been possible.

For all we actually know it was the wound Q received in the Q-Civil war that actually killed him.

It just took billions of years to do it.