Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

[Alidar Jarok]

Interesting approach, I don't think I've ever seen events of a movie and series intertwine like that before. At least not mid-season.

I think Star Trek could fit in that category. After Generations, Sisko enlists Worf a few seasons in who wasn't assigned to anything yet, he was away for a few episodes during First Contact along with the Defiant, he was away during Insurrection too, and later Admiral Janeway jokes with Picard. Three series and four movies, all intertwined.

It's softer than this, but that's a good example. It felt TNG movies had to bend over backwards to account for the dramatic changes in the Star Trek universe while still wanting to tell a story completely unrelated to it. So you have Worf and the Defiant fighting the Borg in First Contact and they mention the Dominion in Insurrection. But, other than that, the uniforms made as much an impact as anything else.

But I do agree it's the next closest and the ties to each other were kind of cool.

 

[Guy Gardener]

How within the greater Star Wars Continuity did Lucus' stooges explain Luke, Artoo and C3P0 guest-starring on the Muppet Show?

 

[sojourner]

Mark Hamill stole the costume and the droid props.

 

[Awesome Possum]

Interesting approach, I don't think I've ever seen events of a movie and series intertwine like that before. At least not mid-season.

The X-Files did it with its first movie which took place between seasons.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Mark Hamill stole the costume and the droid props.

You haven't seen the episode (recently)?

Mark and Luke were both there.

They are cousins.

 

[sojourner]

Mark Hamill stole the costume and the droid props.

You haven't seen the episode (recently)?

Mark and Luke were both there.

They are cousins.

Just plays to his delusion.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Spoiler: stuff you really should keep secret in this thread. ;)

So if S.H.I.E.L.D. is down, what about S.W.O.R.D.?

Meanwhile, who owns the bus if S.H.I.E.L.D. doesn't exist, and more importantly who is paying to refuel it?

(Yahoo answers is feeding me facts.)

1000 gallons per 24 hours.

US $2.84 (That really doesn't seem right. But maybe jet fuel is almost cheaper than regular fuel because it's used in such massive quantities.)

So almost 3 grand a day to keep the bus flying.

Although maybe they don't have to worry about that while all the black sites are still carrying depot surpluses?

 

[Gryffindorian]

And by the way, it's spelled Potomac, not Patomic. I just remembered somebody misspelled the word.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Interesting approach, I don't think I've ever seen events of a movie and series intertwine like that before. At least not mid-season.

I think Star Trek could fit in that category. After Generations, Sisko enlists Worf a few seasons in who wasn't assigned to anything yet, he was away for a few episodes during First Contact along with the Defiant, he was away during Insurrection too, and later Admiral Janeway jokes with Picard. Three series and four movies, all intertwined.

Nope. Worf didn't miss any episodes of DS9.

However, there was a bit of a crossover between Star Trek 6 and the Spock episodes of TNG.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

The Simpsons movie had the biggest impact on the Show.
They almost destroyed Springfield and had a special opening sequence in the episode after, showing the ruins.
And they killed off a character they even had to remove from the credits, I think.

 

[Turtletrekker]

^They killed off Dr. Nick, but he has mysteriously appeared a few times since then.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Very cool poster for next week's Agents of SHIELD episode by comicbook artist Mike Del Mundo

Very cool poster, but does that image contain a spoiler?

It seems odd that they would give an artist spoiler info and allow him to share it publicly in a poster before the episode airs, but if that is indeed what they did, here's what it looks like to me:

Spoiler: Dead Man in Poster

(Click to enlarge)

A very interesting theory about who the Clairvoyant might be: http://badassdigest.com/2014/04/04/does-the-winter-soldier-reveal-agents-of-shields-clairvoyant (major CA:TWS spoilers!)

That's what I immediately thought as soon as I saw the film.

Spoiler: The Winter Soldier

Zola's computer consciousness uses his insider knowledge of SHIELD secrets as well as a predictive algorithm to anticipate HYDRA's future enemies, which was one of the long-running rumors we had going here, especially with Coulson's frequent denial of psychics.

The multiple computer screens of the fake Clairvoyant mirror the multiple screens in Zola's underground bunker, and he might continue to survive on a flash drive given the USB hub on the table near his screen, showing recent use.

In this case, I think Hand possibly just works for him this time, or has perhaps been convinced that Coulson is working for him through some kind of frame job to make the SHIELD personnel turn on each other.

The fact that the article posted on the last page says the AoS staff knew the basic plot of CA:TWS all along certainly makes Zola as the Clairvoyant all the more plausible.

The first 90 seconds of "Turn, Turn, Turn". Very cool. Best open of the season.

I like Garrett's taste in music.

It also has a nice little (possibly unintentional) double meaning in that one of the most recognized UAVs in use by the military is the MQ-9 Reaper, although it's different from the jet powered UAVs in that awesome opener there.

I was probably too busy being annoyed at what a poor showing Defiant had in First Contact

Off-topic, but how so? The Defiant was present during the roll call at the start of the battle, survived a running battle with the Cube for however many light years it is from the Typhon Sector to Earth and however long it took for the Enterprise to travel from the Neutral Zone to Earth, continued fighting throughout the last stand at Earth which saw many larger and likely newer vessels destroyed, survived largely intact, and was repaired and ready to serve again at DS9 soon after. Seems like a pretty good showing to me.

 

[intrinsical]

I just noticed a slight name change in the trailer video for the next episode. Its now Marvel's Agents of SHIELD: UPRISING. And notice Captain America's shield symbol flash by before the usual SHIELD symbol?

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JjaxffkLTI[/yt]

 

[Mr Light]

Season Two Name Change Announced:

Marvel's Agents of SHIELD: You Can't Take the Bus From Me

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I just noticed a slight name change in the trailer video for the next episode. Its now Marvel's Agents of SHIELD: UPRISING. And notice Captain America's shield symbol flash by before the usual SHIELD symbol?

Both have been true for several weeks.

 

[bbjeg]

^Yeah.

Interesting approach, I don't think I've ever seen events of a movie and series intertwine like that before. At least not mid-season.

I think Star Trek could fit in that category. After Generations, Sisko enlists Worf a few seasons in who wasn't assigned to anything yet, he was away for a few episodes during First Contact along with the Defiant, he was away during Insurrection too, and later Admiral Janeway jokes with Picard. Three series and four movies, all intertwined.

Nope. Worf didn't miss any episodes of DS9.

However, there was a bit of a crossover between Star Trek 6 and the Spock episodes of TNG.

IIRC I remember someone mentioning First Contact on DS9.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

I think it was "we're spread thin because of the recent Borg attack."

 

[Turtletrekker]

^That.

 

[Reverend]

It's been ages since I've seen the show and I only ever saw the movie once, but didn't the X-Files movie also take place between seasons? The only other example I can think of is South Park and that hardly counts.

 

[Luminus]

Off-topic, but how so? The Defiant was present during the roll call at the start of the battle, survived a running battle with the Cube for however many light years it is from the Typhon Sector to Earth and however long it took for the Enterprise to travel from the Neutral Zone to Earth, continued fighting throughout the last stand at Earth which saw many larger and likely newer vessels destroyed, survived largely intact, and was repaired and ready to serve again at DS9 soon after. Seems like a pretty good showing to me.

The Defiant only survived because Ira Behr threatened to ignore First Contact if it was destroyed.

Early drafts of the script of Star Trek: First Contact suggested that the Defiant was to be destroyed in the Battle of Sector 001. In the DVD commentary for the film, First Contact co-writer and Deep Space Nine producer Ronald D. Moore said that Deep Space Nine's Executive Producer Ira Steven Behr had seen the script and objected to the needless destruction of his ship in a story that didn't even involve the Deep Space Nine characters (apart from Worf). It would also prove to be inconvenient for the television show, so the Defiant was eventually allowed to survive the battle, and a line suggesting that the Defiant was "adrift, but salvageable" was added to clear up any ambiguity. No reference to the damage the Defiant received during the battle was ever made on Deep Space Nine (although a brief reference was made to the battle itself in "In Purgatory's Shadow", when Sisko mentions "the recent Borg attack").