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Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 1x03 - "Ghosts of Illyria"

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jackoverfull said:
either Una’s status never became public or O’Brian didn’t know about her.
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Or both.

Pike, of course, would never tell anyone that Una is Illyrian. And she's obviously been able to fool all kinds of medical and sensor scans over the years, so as to pass as human.

So if Pike doesn't tell anyone, no one - including O'Brien - will ever know.
 
Mr. Laser Beam said:
Or both.

Pike, of course, would never tell anyone that Una is Illyrian. And she's obviously been able to fool all kinds of medical and sensor scans over the years, so as to pass as human.

So if Pike doesn't tell anyone, no one - including O'Brien - will ever know.
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O’Brien did know (maybe) that was the point of the image that was being quoted.

SNW is almost 100 years before DS9. O’Brien says it’s been almost 100 years since an incident involving an augment in starfleet.

It wasn’t a nitpick about an error, it was an observation that it lines up.
 
Serveaux said:
What "The Cage" implies is that Pike believed Una to be an Earth woman
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In 1964, Roddenberry was planning to throw us a twist that on an Earth ship + Spock, Number One was also an extraterrestrial? Nah.

Pike was given two additional Earth women to consider because he had rejected the first. That was as deep as "The Cage" went.

That doesn't mean that they can't add layers to that today.
 
NCC-73515 said:
Menagerie and Cage also have different endings, so I'd agree than Menagerie is part of the TOS continuity instead of Cage
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True, the footage of Vina and a simulated illusion Pike going off together is repurposed to be illusion versions of both of them that their consciousnesses are connected to going off together....

But how do we know that Vina didn't have an illusion Pike to be with between the events of "The Cage" and his return in "The Menagerie"?

The point is, there's no contradiction between assuming that "The Cage" ends the way it did originally, and then "The Menagerie" comes along later and gives Vina the real Pike.
 
CorporalCaptain said:
In 1964, Roddenberry was planning to throw us a twist that on an Earth ship + Spock, Number One was also an extraterrestrial? Nah.
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I didn't say that.

Just that Pike's dialogue doesn't, in fact, establish any in-story fact about Number One for SNW to contradict. It's just a character saying a thing, which is different from laying down a plot point or the writer asserting something as an in-universe "fact."
 
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