That’s a good point. Totally missed that. I guess the writers did too back then.
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I can think of two others off the top of my head, so yeah.
And I should care why?
Because who ever wrote that line in TSFS was an idiot confusing when the show started with Uhura's join date. It's like the people who thing "first contact" means the first time we see a species on the show.
Citations that are conjecture. And will soon be gone.
So a day ending in "Y"?
Sounds like you just contradicted yourself.
Most of Trek history is fans rationalizing contradictory episode and film data to come up with coherent explanations. I mean, one of DS9's episodes said the Eugenics Wars happened just 200 years before. Clearly a gigantic error by the writers. Sometimes writers just don't pay attention or make other simple human errors.
Exactly. The writers are not responsible for knowing the vast history of Trek. They get it close enough, in time, so it can be shot.
The writers of VGR didn't forget about the Eugenics Wars happening during the 90s; they intentionally chose to ignore that bit of Trek history for the purposes of the story they wanted to tell.
They did include a desktop model of a DY-100 sleeper ship with rocket boosters attached for launch mode and put it as a background prop in Rain Robinson's SETI laboratory in Los Angeles. So they never outright mentioned the Eugenics Wars but the producers did drop visual evidence into the story that the Wars still happened.
I'm sure there's a rational explanation.
I'd wager that's the case with most discrepancies.
So, just to clear up this logic trainwreck, you only care about DSC, the show that brought back Spock, Pike, Number One, the Enterprise, Sarek, Amanda, Vina, Mudd, gave Spock an adopted sister instead of creating an unrelated character so they could have an excuse to revisit him and Sarek, spent an entire season incorporating Pike's crew and ship into the narrative, went to the Mirror Universe for the umpteenth time, had another conflict with the Klingons for the umpteenth time, brought back Section 31, etc., but THE VERY SHOW DSC SPENT A SEASON SETTING UP TO TAKE PLACE IN THIS ERA is dipping too far into the "nostalgia card" well for you to deal with by reintroducing a few recognizable contemporary characters who actually served on the Enterprise before (in TOS) so sort of make sense if you fudge the details a bit?
I like DSC too, but it's got tons of playing the "nostalgia card", so citing that an excuse for dropping this show, when by its very premise and full season of development on Disco you should have already known it was going to play upon nostalgia and bringing back recognizable TOS characters, doesn't make a ounce of sense.
The point should be whether they do something new and interesting and more fully developed with those characters versus their original depictions in TOS, and that should be the litmus test of whether it was wrong or not to use the "nostalgia card" that shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone. I think Uhura, Chapel, and M'Benga have a lot of room to grow and do something fresh and exciting with the characters, and I look forward to it. You shouldn't be so kneejerk close-minded about it.
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Proof? Cite source.
Voices?
Game, set and match.
Fair enough. Thank you for that, actually. It quantifiably confirms and re-enforces what a bunch of cop-out hacks the Voyager writing staff was to intentionally omit such a vital piece of Trek history just because they didn't want to "falsify our present". How positively lame on their part... 
Yeah, even the Berman Era had its moments of pure laziness to avoid discussing canon and reinforcing continuity. I really like that two-parter but the glaring omission of any references to the Eugenics Wars always sticks out like a sore thumb.
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The solution would actually have been quite easy - slightly adjust the timeframe by +/- 5 or 10 years, either before Khan and his people rose to power or after they were sent packing (the latter probably would have been the best). They instead just simply chose to ignore it entirely because reasons. Textbook lazy indeed.
To be fair even "Carpenter Street(ENT)" failed to reference the Wars which had ended just eight years before but since that time travel episode didn't take place during one of the years the conflicts actually happened it's more forgivable.
Plus ENT went out of its way to directly reference the Eugenics Wars on multiple other occasions so them not bringing them up when visiting Detroit in the year 2004 is fine.
