Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Tim Thomason]

When I was younger, I thought it was crazy that the Eugenics Wars were barely alluded to on Voyager during Future's End. But then I lived mostly stateside during the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars, and now feel that Future's End is one of the most accurate portrayals of wartime America ever given.

And ended up serving on the same ship that would go on to find her long lost ancestor. I have a tough time typing that without chuckling.

Not if he has 500 million descendants with the last name "Noonien-Singh" and a proclivity towards high intelligence.

 

[DEWLine]

Could the genetic work that produced the Augments have happened when it did without supercomputer tech such as Chronowerx produced?

 

[Yistaan]

If this is TOS timeframe reunion, I want to bring on Garth of Izar, Matthew Decker, young General Chang, young Cartwright, of course Sybok, and Carol Marcus. Then move onto Enterprise and bring in Phlox and T'Pol. Scott Bakula's around with CBS right? Bring him in for evil President Archer. Then bring in Brent Spiner to play, uh, the uncle of La'an Noonien-Singh.

Did I miss anything as far as the fan service list?

 

[fireproof78]

If this TOS timeframe reunion, I want to bring on Garth of Izar, Matthew Decker, young General Chang, young Cartwright, of course Sybok, and Carol Marcus. Then move onto Enterprise and bring in Phlox and T'Pol. Scott Bakula's around with CBS right? Bring him in for evil President Archer. Then bring in Brent Spiner to play, uh, the uncle of La'an Noonien-Singh.

Did I miss anything as far as the fan service list?

Um, yes. The biggest one of them all: April.

 

[DEWLine]

Some of those make more sense than others, @Yistaan

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Hell, he wasn't even name-dropped in "Farpoint."

True, dat!

 

[Jadeb]

Yeah, the introduction of the Enterprise and the three most important of her "The Cage(TOS)" Era characters into DSC was about as organic and unforced as an enema. It all ended up being good because Anson Mount's Pike is excellent, Ethan Peck's Spock is a great tribute to Leonard Nimoy and Rebecca Romijn's Number One/Una is a fantastic fleshing-out of Majel Barrett's original character, but let's not kid ourselves.

It's almost funny what a needle scratch it was when the Enterprise showed up. "Welp, war's over, story's done. Hey, there's the Enterprise!"

 

[NCC-73515]

Perhaps the Soongs were actually Singhs and changed their name at some point to no longer be associated with Khan... and Noonien's parents were admirers of that particular ancestor and that's why they chose that name for their son

 

[Tim Thomason]

If this TOS timeframe reunion, I want to bring on Garth of Izar, Matthew Decker, young General Chang, young Cartwright, of course Sybok, and Carol Marcus. Then move onto Enterprise and bring in Phlox and T'Pol. Scott Bakula's around with CBS right? Bring him in for evil President Archer. Then bring in Brent Spiner to play, uh, the uncle of La'an Noonien-Singh.

Did I miss anything as far as the fan service list?

Sounds good.

Garth of Izar: A rival Captain of another Constitution class ship, Pike and crew have to take him and his ship down when he becomes murderous after recovering from injuries sustained in a Klingon POW camp.

Matt Decker: Pike's old Academy roommate and considered the best Captain in Starfleet. They're both due for a promotion, but Pike gives it to Decker, despite having better rapport with the admiralty.

Chang: A well-spoken Klingon defector who hails the Enterprise and requests amnesty. Turns out, he's a Klingon spy looking to assassinate Chancellor L'rell at a peace conference on Starbase 12. He manages to escape into Romulan space at the end of the episode, but he will return.

Cartwright: Another Captain friend of Pike's. Tries and fails to recruit him into Section 31.

Sybok: and the V'tosh Ka'tur are stranded in space and rescued by the Enterprise. Relations are frosty between Spock and his half-brother, but Sybok makes quick friends with Una and everyone else on the ship, and ship engineer Lt. Sevrin even leaves the Enterprise to join Sybok's cause after their ship is repaired.

Carol Marcus: Having recently broken up with her boyfriend, Carol is reassigned to the Enterprise and quickly begins an infatuation with Spock. The two become lovers, but Spock's emotional detachment is too much for Carol, and she requests a transfer. He later learns that she returns back to her old boyfriend.

Phlox: Spock gives the old Denobulan doctor a tour of the ship in the first episode, although his name is never mentioned.

T'Pol: The former Commander-in-Chief of Starfleet, T'Pol gives a surprise inspection of the Enterprise and her military capabilities. Everyone frets under T'Pol's tyrannical orders during inspection, especially with her apparent racist bias towards the half-breed Spock and the Augment La'an.

Archer: Pike reminisces about his first day on the Enterprise as an XO (cut to: Anson Mount with dyed black hair), when he and Captain April and President Archer missed their shuttle to the launch of the Enterprise and instead spent the whole day fishing in upstate New York. Turns out it was Archer's last day alive, and they were also visited by Daniels and the Suliban.

Malik Soong (Brent Spiner): One of Arik Soong's many clones. Malik is the patriarch of the Noonien-Singh clan in deep space, a neo-Eugenics group that La'an broke free from many years prior. He is using his genetically enhanced supersoldiers to build and research his cybernetics industry. When La'an makes a breakthrough in positronic computing, Malik and the Noonien-Singhs takeover the Enterprise and attempt to confiscate her research.

I am auditioning for a writer's spot on SNW Season 2.

 

[Yistaan]

T'Pol's tyrannical orders during inspection, especially with her apparent racist bias towards the half-breed Spock

Spock: T'Pol it is illogical to show any speciest tendencies towards my heritage as it is common knowledge who you relieved your Pon Farr with.

T'Pol: And who would that be, Mr. Spock? Are you insinuating that I would debase myself with...

(Charles "Trip" Tucker beams in out of nowhere!)

Trip: That would be me! Hi everyone! I'm not dead!

Spock: Fascinating.

T'Pau: You Federation officers are highly illogical, or to use a human term, crazy. I believe any debt I owed to President Archer for recovering the Kir'shara has long been repaid. The next time I see you Mr. Spock and any illogical Starfleet officers with you, the fight will be to the death. Oh, and I'm turning down a seat on the Federation Council.

M'Benga takes notes on his PADD for other Starfleet medical personnel to have a shot of neural paralyzer handy to fake deaths the next time they meet T'Pau.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

For the episode with Sybok, have the ship hijacked and taken to the center of the galaxy, and you have a deal!

 

[Tuskin38]

isn't time that SNW had its own section on the forum

The admins don't make the subforums until the show is about to air. That's how it went with Picard and Lower Decks.

I don't know about Discovery, I wasn't active on the forum when that subforum was created.

 

[cooleddie74]

It appears the hallways behind the bridge stations are now gone and the overall area of the bridge is now smaller to put it more in line with the TOS bridge. The turbolift doors are now noticeably closer to the Captain's Chair.

 

[cooleddie74]

The command gold/yellow is now more of a mustard tone to put it more in line with how the color appeared on TOS.

 

[Tuskin38]

The command gold/yellow is now more of a mustard tone to put it more in line with how the color appeared on TOS.

That also seems to be a new captains chair prop. Similar design, but the wood framing is thicker, and the 'arm rests' are thinner.

 

[cooleddie74]

Maybe they didn't take the metallic reflective shine off the bridge but it's smaller, they got rid of the service walkways behind the stations and there's a lot more bright TOS-style color. I love it.

 

[Tuskin38]

and the overall area of the bridge is now smaller

Hm, the door is closer, but the spacing between the captains chair and the consoles ring seems to be the same, at least to my eyes.

 

[DaveyNY]

Fleet Admiral Morrow - THE HEAD OF STARFLEET ITSELF - thought the Federation's most famous starship was half her actual age. I rest my case.

I always kinda-sorta figured Marrow was being somewhat gracious with Kirk about the ships age.
He knew she was a lot older, but dropped a decade off so as not to offhand indicate that it might be time for Kirk to be put out to pasture as well.

 

[cooleddie74]

That still reduces the overall size, which is a good thing. The turbolift doors looked like you needed to throw a softball to hit them in DSC.

 

[FederationHistorian]

ENT showed us Romulan cloaking technology and more than once, even if TOS seemed to think it was a shocking new development and nobody on Kirk's Enterprise had ever seen such an invisibility screen. There are ways both can exist and not violate canon, in part labeling the Romulan minefield of 2152 as different technology than the Bird-of-Prey cloak in 2266, even if both use roughly the same principles to achieve their intended results.

Or maybe, it’s a shock that the Romulans use cloaking technology on their vessels in the 23rd century, since they never used them in the war. And disguising their ships with holoprojectors was more the Romulan style back then.

Maybe that cloaked BoP in ENT was an outlier from what actual BoPs were actually like during that era.