Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Quinton]

Which is too bad — I really like both

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La’an as a character

and

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Christina Chong as an actor

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She’s my fave.

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There’s a certain unmistakable storm cloud hovering over her, though, for sure. Like, in terms of these totally-new TOS characters, I fully expect Ortegas to live a long life, but La’an… not so much. :/ At least they’re nicely allowing her to conquer her demons and move forward more happily with the time she has left, if so!

 

[FredH]

She’s my fave.

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There’s a certain unmistakable storm cloud hovering over her, though, for sure. Like, in terms of these totally-new TOS characters, I fully expect Ortegas to live a long life, but La’an… not so much. :/ At least they’re nicely allowing her to conquer her demons and move forward more happily with the time she has left, if so!

I could still see a heroic end for anyone not seen in TOS or later (especially Ortegas, although once again I hope not, for pretty much the same reasons).

 

[Firebird]

I do feel like this apparent new relationship between

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Spock and La’an

has come out of the blue. I wouldn’t be surprised if, now that the show has an end date, eventually

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La’an dies heroically, and Spock recedes further emotionally, to the point that even years later in “Space Seed” he won’t even reveal a flinch when he first learns Khan’s surname, or speak of this even in his still-later more-humanizing years when Khan returns in TWOK

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It would be kinda odd if SNW does that given that Star Trek Continues did the exact same storyline, albeit a platonic friendship, with Spock and Dr. McKennah.

 

[FredH]

It would be kinda odd if SNW does that given that Star Trek Continues did the exact same storyline, albeit a platonic friendship, with Spock and Dr. McKennah.

It’s an easy enough sort of thread to see developing, so I’m not surprised at different productions/writers dealing with the same character coming up with such. I think the old J.M. Dillard novel (The Lost Years?) did something similar, too. I wouldn’t be surprised if others have.

 

[The Knappos]

They could have the opportunity to do an interesting reprise of the set up from Relics with La'an or Ortegas.

For example, we see them sacrifice themselves and then freeze themselves in the same/similar way to Scotty and then they are revived on a Starfleet Academy field trip in the 32nd century in Star Trek: Academy. Which would also give YouTubers an opportunity to make some Buck Rogers titles parodies too.

 

[FredH]

They could have the opportunity to do an interesting reprise of the set up from Relics with La'an or Ortegas.

For example, we see them sacrifice themselves and then freeze themselves in the same/similar way to Scotty and then they are revived on a Starfleet Academy field trip in the 32nd century in Star Trek: Academy. Which would also give YouTubers an opportunity to make some Buck Rogers titles parodies too.

Well, they could do that with any deceased character — but that way lies madness, or at least Marvel/DC.

 

[The Knappos]

Well, they could do that with any deceased character — but that way lies madness, or at least Marvel/DC.

Any deceased character?

We're talking about characters currently being performed in a 23rd Century setting, whom we've not seen in any of the future settings. Now we presume that they either go on to live and die in the late 23rd/early 24th century or they die in SNW before the finale, but it's just a hypothetical other option, whereby the crew of the Enterprise think they're dead, but they're actually frozen or suspended or whatever until found/revived in the 32nd century.

It's just the germ of an idea. Not the most original (as I say when I recall back to Relics), but if I were in the writer's room (across both shows) I'd try give it a full ponder and see if I (or someone else) had a story for that character in 32nd century.

I didn't imagine it as a way to bring back any old dead character.

 

[FredH]

.I didn't imagine it as a way to bring back any old dead character.

Maybe not, but it is one. I’m not faulting the idea, it’s just that the (already long established) precedent of bringing back dead/seemingly dead characters can lead to the eventual death-revolving-door problem unless the writers make sure to Just Not Do It Again. It hasn’t yet in Star Trek, but I suspect that’s more because the actors of dead characters have to get paid again if they return, whereas nobody has to pay the Martian Manhunter or (heaven forfend) Jean Grey.

EDIT: Nor do I have any problem with the basic idea of a character showing up in a future era, in itself; I’m actually quite looking forward to The Last Starship. It’s just that it would be very easy for that to start sliding into more and more dead or “callback” characters being transplanted there, if mainly for “hey, neat!” value.

 

[Fateor]

Maybe not, but it is one. I’m not faulting the idea, it’s just that the (already long established) precedent of bringing back dead/seemingly dead characters can lead to the eventual death-revolving-door problem unless the writers make sure to Just Not Do It Again. It hasn’t yet in Star Trek, but I suspect that’s more because the actors of dead characters have to get paid again if they return, whereas nobody has to pay the Martian Manhunter or (heaven forfend) Jean Grey.

That ship sailed with Shaxs.

 

[Tuskin38]

That ship sailed with Shaxs.

That was a joke about how that happens in Trek.

 

[Fateor]

That was a joke about how that happens in Trek.

It was a joke about how that happens in Trek, that involved canonizing the fact that that sort of thing regularly happens in Trek.

 

[Tuskin38]

It was a joke about how that happens in Trek, that involved canonizing the fact that that sort of thing regularly happens in Trek.

Previous shows already did that.