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I'm sorry if you don't agree with that. No one's forcing you.
. But episodic, optimistic show is indeed my cup of coffee.Publishing and media have become much more conservative. There is nothing wrong with stand alone episodes, but they strip the opportunities of the medium to have story arcs and broad philosophies or arguments within the media. A mix of both stand alones and story arcs are of course most ideal because ti gives the most possibilities within a inherently collaborative medium like plays/Tv/movies,etc... We have moved into a time where taking risks is even more frowned upon. Name a really controversial show in the last 10 years on any media. One that got society or any segment or part talking about it.
I have some art training, and some friends and acquaintances that are writers (published for pay or not) and some really odd things are happening in the entertainment industry. The arts are supposed in part challenge us or cause us to reflect on ourselves, as well as being good art.
Its a bit of an open secret in publishing that alot of conservative and some crazy christian groups have moved to take control of "print" media to the point where something labeled non-christain or too liberal (even from famous well established authors) will not be accepted. It just finally inexorably moved into all media. Just look around for "christian based" or "christian friendly" businesses in advertising, and its really creepy both overt and on signage. Since artists have to conform to arbitrary categories some marketing person made up for Pr and a hatchtag and if it doesn't fit it doesn't get backing because it can be categorized and labeled like we maybe have never seen. Synergisticly these are shredding the arts and media.
Just look at politics. We are so fractured, no one wants to take risks.
The vast majority of tv shows are more liberal than conservative. And a tv show about satan-worshipping witches (as the good guys!) is currently one of the bigger shows on Netflix. Not to mention the alternate history show about Nazis on Amazon Prime. Or the AP series about fake superheroes pretending to be righteous christian folk when they're actually murderous sexual deviants. And one of the longest running shows on network tv in the modern era has featured such 'christian' things as showing God apologizing to Lucifer for casting him out, claiming that God has a sister and that his sister is more powerful than he is, showing repeatedly that Angels are almost universally terrible and immoral and that sometimes demons are actually better than them.
And indeed, this is what Kurtzman said it will be...
https://deadline.com/video/star-trek-short-treks-contenders-tv-nominees-video/
https://deadline.com/video/star-trek-short-treks-contenders-tv-nominees-video/
Hoping for like the Final season of Enterprise, and let the story dictate the length of the episodes. If it requires 2 episodes to complete, do it, takes 1/2 then think of a B story, etc.
I find that extremely hard to believe.
Do you have any clear cut examples for any of these assertations?
Indeed. Media? "More conservative"? 
Indeed. Media? "More conservative"?
The backers who provide financing, without which nothing happens.
Then why do obviously not even a little bit conservative projects get billions in financing while 'Christian film and tv' remains largely a low-budget niche?
Yes, but I dont have the permission of my author friends or my ex to give their names....but the money people are so much more conservative it ridiculous....and for print media a large percentage of the presses are almost controlled by conservative religious groups. They started taking over in the late 1990's when I was working as a bookstore and it started becoming harder to get certain books, because they were not being reprinted. even though there was a market. The books aimed at the homosexual community were the first to start having problems with getting backing eve for what we now call pre-orders. Then SF/Fantasy with out religion or things they considered atheistic tones, so authors eitehr had to add some reference to religion or find a small press, even big names. The ebook market helps.=, but yes all teh entertainment industries have gotten more conservative b/c the backers. I'm not in the industry anymore, but there are discussions if you look a bit, though now its in more in music as fewer and fewer indi stuff gets airplay (radio, streaming, whatever). It was always hard but now its almost impossible to get a chance.
Thats why so much stuff is more generic and more limited in scope. Do you really think fahrenheit 451 much less 1984, brave new world, or the Heinlein adults with rampant sexuality if out incest would eve see the light of day?
https://open.lib.umn.edu/sociology/chapter/17-6-trends-in-religious-belief-and-activity/
https://www.city-journal.org/html/future-conservative-books-13105.html
https://gbr.pepperdine.edu/2017/12/religious-beliefs-influence-financial-decision-making/
https://www.hoover.org/research/religion-and-economic-development
https://www.politicalresearch.org/2...g-a-theocratic-movement-hiding-in-plain-sight
https://gudcapital.com/entertainment-industry-loans/
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/332296781_The_Effect_of_Religion_on_Accounting_Conservatism
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Because explicitly didactic Xtian movies have a very low ceiling, box office-wise. They insult and offend anyone not already inculcated into that mindset, so most people won’t go see them.
Its FISCALLY conservative not to spend a lot of money making a SOCIALLY conservative propaganda movie.
I'll drink to that!
Oh, goody! More politics once again invading an ostensibly apolitical thread. Thanks for that. 
I'll drink to no politicsOh, goody! More politics once again invading an ostensibly apolitical thread. Thanks for that.
You didn’t start it.
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