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Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

An episodic show with "emotional serialization" does not sound bad to me. To me that sounds like it will mostly be episodic stories, but the characters will grow and change across the season(s).
And I can very much imagine the possibility of some longer-running plots or themes going on in the background, like in TNG or early DS9 for example (we do an episode introducing the Marquis and then, some time later we return to them for a story etc. etc.)
 
Sf is sliding back into being considered children stuff so to speak. And yes frequently they were dumbed down by modern standards, esp TNG. Tak m local library, once a expansive Sf/Fantasy collections, but now all teh bequests and leatherbound copies of classics are gone, with new acquisitions being a mix of romance, graphic novels aimed at under18yrs old, and nothing controversial like dune (the few left have warning labels for religious and political philosophy), teh forever war (unpatriotic), anything by heinline (controversial sexual content), sherri tepper book removed (offensive religion content-feminist themes offended religions groups, and political stuff considered unpatriotic), george orwell (to controversial/political), Ursula K LeGuin (feminism and anthropological perspective considers anti-religion/discriminatory against men and religion).

To me all emotional serializations sounds like, is just another reality show based on fictional characters, with no story arc, philosophy or purpose, like a diary.
 
Sf is sliding back into being considered children stuff so to speak. And yes frequently they were dumbed down by modern standards, esp TNG. Tak m local library, once a expansive Sf/Fantasy collections, but now all teh bequests and leatherbound copies of classics are gone, with new acquisitions being a mix of romance, graphic novels aimed at under18yrs old, and nothing controversial like dune (the few left have warning labels for religious and political philosophy), teh forever war (unpatriotic), anything by heinline (controversial sexual content), sherri tepper book removed (offensive religion content-feminist themes offended religions groups, and political stuff considered unpatriotic), george orwell (to controversial/political), Ursula K LeGuin (feminism and anthropological perspective considers anti-religion/discriminatory against men and religion).
Sounds like a problem with your library not with SF
To me all emotional serializations sounds like, is just another reality show based on fictional characters, with no story arc, philosophy or purpose, like a diary.

That's a helluva leap.
 
What have we been told that would lead you to believe that SNW will be "just another reality show based on fictional characters"?
 
Really?
It seems a logical rational progression with what we have been told.
It make's me sad.

Judging from your posts, you have no actual info, just a feeling based in how you interpreted wat we do know combined with your personal opinions on what SF MUST be, not what the diversity it actually has.
 
To me all emotional serializations sounds like, is just another reality show based on fictional characters, with no story arc, philosophy or purpose, like a diary.
What it means is very simple, and not what you describe. What it means is that unlike TOS where we get an episode in which Kirk truly falls in love, then loses her, and one episode later is completely fine, the events of the episodes will contribute to the character development even if the overall plots are self-contained.

I have no idea where you get the idea that this means it will be a reality show or even like a reality show.
 
It's up for debate whether or not serialization works well for Discovery, Picard, and every other TV show out there, but that doesn't mean Strange New Worlds has to follow suit. Personally, I think it'll be refreshing. I'm absolutely exhausted with season-long arcs as it promotes binge-watching, which I also hate.

I've always thought serialization hurts the rewatch value. I like being able to just pop in any episode at any given time and have a complete story in 48 minutes.
 
I am definitely a fan of the serialized format.

As much as I have loved TOS for all these years, the 'disconnectedness' of the episodes gets to the point where you start to feel that all of the characters have very bad cases of amnesia. :crazy:
 
I tend to agree. I like things mattering. Also, are still episodic bits that I'll rewatch just because.

Serialized just makes it more meaty for me.
 
I am definitely a fan of the serialized format.

As much as I have loved TOS for all these years, the 'disconnectedness' of the episodes gets to the point where you start to feel that all of the characters have very bad cases of amnesia. :crazy:

Or the opposite with Uhura, where she had her memories wiped and was back to normal the next episode.
 
It's up for debate whether or not serialization works well for Discovery, Picard, and every other TV show out there, but that doesn't mean Strange New Worlds has to follow suit. Personally, I think it'll be refreshing. I'm absolutely exhausted with season-long arcs as it promotes binge-watching, which I also hate.

I've always thought serialization hurts the rewatch value. I like being able to just pop in any episode at any given time and have a complete story in 48 minutes.

Up for debate? Ok....
 
Well, lets take a look at B5, it was serialized, but alot of singular episodes, When I rewatch I don't have to start at season 1 and go, I can start on season 3. Now thats repeat watching, guess you have to watch it the long way atleast once.
But for SNW, Having some Character serializations will work, like you build up Ensign Bob, Have him have a traumatic encounter, or a loss, and have him being an alcholholic, like Garabaldi.
You have a character start off as a fool like Londo, and then have him fall. B5 was great at character development, no one was the same at the end of the series.
 
Well, lets take a look at B5, it was serialized, but alot of singular episodes, When I rewatch I don't have to start at season 1 and go, I can start on season 3. Now thats repeat watching, guess you have to watch it the long way atleast once.

That was how serialization worked back then. Hell, even NuBSG operated on the same basic model. If you look back most of the episodes had concrete plots and themes which were self-contained.

It would be interesting to try and pinpoint when "slice of the arc" became the preferred way to do serialization on TV. I first became aware of it with Game of Thrones, but it probably originated on non-genre television.
 
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