Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

[Noname Given]

Doesn’t “Under The Cloak of War” establish that M’Benga wasn’t just a doctor, but an Starfleet Intelligence/Special Forces operative?

Yes.

 

[cooleddie74]

Well, darn. Guess that means he does have another skillset.

 

[Dar70]

Well, darn. Guess that means he does have another skillset.

Yeah he used that skill set once on TOS when he slapped the crap out of Spock.

 

[Dar70]

Why would he have to do that? As mentioned, sloppy writing.

I think he was just finishing his thought on Pike right after Kirk mentioned he met him once. It is not out of the ordinary for a conversation to go like that.

 

[Dukhat]

OK, hear me out,

what if ENT only exists as holodeck episodes in Riker's files.

It was that way all along, and they pulled back the curtain when they delivered their valentine to the fans.

Eh?

That was the theory postulated by fans who never liked ENT back in the day. Ask me how I know this.

 

[cooleddie74]

Yeah he used that skill set once on TOS when he hit slapped the crap out of Spock.

Violent M'Benga. Canon in both series.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think he was just finishing his thought on Pike right after Kirk mentioned he met him once. It is not out of the ordinary for a conversation to go like that.

I hope you’re getting double time for all the heavy lifting you’re doing.

 

[Dar70]

I hope you’re getting double time for all the heavy lifting you’re doing.

A lot lighter than the lifting people do for SNW

 

[Tuskin38]

A lot lighter than the lifting people do for SNW

It's pretty easy, the show is well written.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Well, darn. Guess that means he does have another skillset.

And that Starfleet is clearly military.

I'll show myself out now... until the next time...

 

[Yistaan]

And that Starfleet is clearly military.

I'll show myself out now... until the next time...

It's pretty funny because I think by Star Trek Beyond characters especially Scotty keep saying that Starfleet isn't a military. Yet it's outright called a military in the Prime Timeline by David Marcus in Wrath of Khan.

I theorize that the Klingon War in Discovery went a long way into militarizing Starfleet whereas the opposite happened after the exposue of Section 31 in Into Darkness.

 

[cooleddie74]

And that Starfleet is clearly military.

I'll show myself out now... until the next time...

Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your subspace newsletter.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Starfleet officers routinely have skillsets that wouldn't make much sense in real life. It's Star Trek.

Combat Medics are a thing.

Special Forces Combat Medics are a Thing.

Karl Erickson from Tactical Rifleman was a former:
- Special Forces Combat Medic
- Para Jumper
- Sniper
- etc.

So having M'Benga be a former
- Special Forces Combat Operator
- Medical Doctor
- etc.

Isn't nearly as far fetched as you would think.
Especially compared to IRL folks who have done similar things.

With StarFleet allowing open training, Officers can end up with very unique far ranging skill sets.

 

[cooleddie74]

Key thing is, I'm not the one in the thread who thinks M'Benga having multiple trained skills to fall back on is a bad or unbelievable thing. Some fans just don't know how to deal with characters who don't fit their narrow view of how people behave "in reality."

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Key thing is, I'm not the one in the thread who thinks M'Benga having multiple trained skills to fall back on is a bad or unbelievable thing. Some fans just don't know how to deal with characters who don't fit their narrow view of how people behave "in reality."

Fair enough, but I'm just offering IRL examples of your exact scenario to help back up your point.



IRL, things can be pretty different and there are those who have very strange disparate skill sets all rolled into one person.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

That was the theory postulated by fans who never liked ENT back in the day. Ask me how I know this.

No way!

 

[Yistaan]

On the topic of prequels, it's hard to have tension about Ortegas' possible fall to the dark side when that awful Lower Decks crossover confirms Boimler and others in his time remember her as a war hero

 

[fireproof78]

On the topic of prequels, it's hard to have tension about Ortegas' possible fall to the dark side when that awful Lower Decks crossover confirms Boimler and others in his time remember her as a war hero

Because history always gets things right?

 

[Yistaan]

Because history always gets things right?

Fair enough.

 

[The Wormhole]

It's pretty funny because I think by Star Trek Beyond characters especially Scotty keep saying that Starfleet isn't a military. Yet it's outright called a military in the Prime Timeline by David Marcus in Wrath of Khan.

Well, yes, whether Starfleet is a military or not is one of the greatest arguments in fandom with contradictory canonical evidence supporting both sides of the argument throughout the franchise. Lower Decks even made a joke on the matter.