Loki changed. So did Georgiou. Redemption arcs can be fun.Just as the audience was meant to be rooting for Loki and will be rooting for Georgiou.
Loki changed. So did Georgiou. Redemption arcs can be fun.Just as the audience was meant to be rooting for Loki and will be rooting for Georgiou.
Sure. But in this case (and to an extent Loki) we're talking a galactic dictator who looked at Stalin and Hitler and said "Hold my spacey beer."Loki changed. So did Georgiou. Redemption arcs can be fun.
That's what Loki aspired to be. I just rewatched Thor and he's genocidal, wanting to wipe out Jotunheim, an entire realm. He becomes a vassal to Thanos to subjugate Earth. He's then a total ally and we're supposed to sad when Thanos kills him.Sure. But in this case (and to an extent Loki) we're talking a galactic dictator who looked at Stalin and Hitler and said "Hold my spacey beer."
I think the Klingon Empire as a whole has gotten a pass / rehab.It's arguable that in "Balance of TerrorErrand of Mercy", Kor was equally genocidal (albeit with more limited means), but because he didn't eat anyone, everyone was cool with him becoming everyone's favorite fun Klingon grandpa on DS9.
"Errand of Mercy." But, Kor did get an unearned redemption.I've said it before, but it's the eating of Kelpians that was the line too far and made Georgiou completely irredeemable in some folks eyes. If DIS hadn't done that, I think more would be ok with her redemption arc. It's arguable that in "Balance of Terror", Kor was equally genocidal (albeit with more limited means), but because he didn't eat anyone, everyone was cool with him becoming everyone's favorite fun Klingon grandpa on DS9.
That doesn't excuse Kor one bit.I think the Klingon Empire as a whole has gotten a pass / rehab.
Oops, I had "Balance" on the mind from a Trek Tech tread i was reading, lol.I think the Klingon Empire as a whole has gotten a pass / rehab.
But I agree about the Kelpians as cattle.
Yes, but not in Star Trek.Hell, FDR placed more than 100,000 Japanese-Americans in internment camps and commanded a military that firebombed German and Japanese cities into ash with hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties and he's lauded - politically so - as one of the best and most important Presidents in U.S. history. People can do sketchy and morally wrong things and still be seen as - on-balance - positive figures in history by their supporters and even historians.
Based upon...what?Kor was a nastier man earlier in his career than he was later in it. That's just how some people are. People often change and abandon earlier ways of conducting their lives and looking at things. TOS Kor was a bad guy. DS9 Kor no longer was.
Oh, that story!My head canon, which in this specific case is all I care about.![]()
Comunications officer, IIRC.Without Googling him Chief Garrison is the transporter chief in the episode, isn't he?
People can do sketchy and morally wrong things and still be seen as - on-balance - positive figures in history by their supporters and even historians.
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