Well played.
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Well played.
Because the shows are in competition.
Do you think they tried to cancel Prodigy with half it's second season already produced for no reason? What about cutting down the episode count of Strange New Worlds final season?
That's quite far from the point being made here. They aren't in competition with each other for fan's affections.
Now on an executive level all shows are competing with every other current and potential future show because only so much programming can be made but this is by no means purely an intra franchise fight. It is not as if the cancellation or truncation of a Star Trek show has been to make way for another, we had 3 or 4 shows airing back to back for nearly an entire year.
And then this is further complicated by the impending change in management who could come along and cancel anything, successful or not, because they want to rebrand. The unceremonious death of the Arrowverse was down to network implosion and I am yet to get over it.
Didn't up the count from being just a movie to six episodes?
And yet they cancelled a show about Starfleet Cadets going to Starfleet Academy to make a show about Starfleet Cadets going to Starfleet Academy.
Nope, it was a full ten episode season that got cut down to six.
They are not.
One can watch both TOS and ACADEMY with no issue. One doesn't take away from the other.
Prodigy was cancelled because it got low numbers, period. No sense in throwing good money after bad. It was competing with ACADEMY, though it seems clear that "no one" is watching any new Trek and discussions are based on our ideas if Trek, not what is actually happening.
The two shows are vastly different and normally if one show is cancelled to make way for the other they don't wait 5 years. That's not how competition works.
No it was a wrap up streaming movie first then six episodes.
Was it? I thought Paramount wanted to ended it and offered them the movie to close out the show. Goldsman and Meyer said they'd need six episodes. Paramount then said sure.
Yup, that's the way I'd heard it as well. And I think they were even lucky to have gotten the offer for a closeout movie in the first place. It's a miracle they managed to argue the budget up to six episodes.
Actually Discovery and Academy do take away from the rest of Trek.
Because of The Burn.
You don't cancel a show who's episodes are already mostly produced and ready to air to save money.
Academy was greenlit by Paramount in March 2023, Prodigy was cancelled by Paramount in June 2023.
No they don't. The Burn and DISCO/SFA are so far in the future their impact on the rest of Trek is negligible.
I disagree, and I'm not the only one who does.
Which is the entire point, what might not effect one persons enjoyment of a thing can effect others.
The majority doesn't mean much to me. A story is a story and in my humble opinion should be enjoyable by itself not in light of future events.
Otherwise, Kirk's adventures are meaningless because he dies. Archer's are even worse because he gets no recognition in later centuries.
Some people think TWOK is a so-so movie. Doesn't change my mind it's superb Star Trek storytelling.
Opinions are only as valuable as the weight one gives them. Hate one Trek and love another but in the end, it's just a take.
Opinions are only as valuable as the weight one gives them. Hate one Trek and love another but in the end, it's just a take.
I do get the argument that these shows ostensibly belong to a shared universe and that it'd be a courtesy to try to respect (or at least, avoid treading on) pre-existing works... but the Berman shows already fucked TOS over, and then sequentially fucked each other over.
It's best to just accept that all of them are standalone series with very thin connective tissue, and none can control or "ruin" any other. Hell, no episode can control any other, let alone series.
Your's or mine's personal enjoyment is very different thing than the shows' impact on past shows. Unless they do a show that ties directly into a past episode the "impact" is miniscule. For example, the Klingons' status in the 32nd Century doesn't change a thing of what we know about the Klingons in the 22nd, 23rd or 24th Centuries.
I can't walk on eggshells worrying about a franchise producer doing something or making a series or film that will make me sad. I'll worry about it when it happens and then try to judge in context. If some Trek isn't good it's more than outweighed by the Trek I like or love and can just go rewatch.
If nuTrek content rubs me the wrong way my life is no worse from a tangible perspective.
If nuTrek content rubs me the wrong way my life is no worse from a tangible perspective.
IMNSHO, TWOK is a fine movie. I also find it highly overrated by Star Trek fans.
Both can be true.
(And also a fair point.)
Just give me content I want to watch. Whether or not it ruins my evening is something I'll decide, and then try not to use to bring everybody else down.
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