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Oh, that’s very cool! And there’s some visuals in there that would have been cool to see in the finished sequence. I especially like this timelapse shot of the atrium …

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Not a makeup expert, but my guess would be that in the 60s there just wasn’t any pitch black makeup available that didn’t glisten or look wet/oily under the harsh and hot 60s studio lights, whereas today they do have black makeup that looks completely matte. But there’s also more subtle things, like how the makeup looks imperfect on their lips, making the red skintones shine through. The same thing happens on the hairline, albeit more subtly. And I think it helps that for the new version of the makeup they also color the hair. What I don’t love about the way the makeup looks now is how there’s almost not definition on the dark side as it’s almost completely unreflective. Granted, we’ve only seen them as backgrounds aliens so far on Starfleet Academy, but should they feature one more prominently in the future, they hopefully make sure to light that side of the face accordingly.
You don't see them often in movies or TV shows, but I've seen pictures of people with very, very dark skin who weren't too dissimilar from the aliens in SFA.

See for example the model Khoudia Diop.

 
The Eugenics Wars being around the year 2173 was a DS9 snafu and all on those producers and writers, and DS9 is my second favorite Trek series of all time.
Yeah and they admitted it was a mistake.

RDM has also said they avoided giving a specific date for the Eugenics Wars in DS9's dialogue because they weren't happening in real life.
 
I wonder what a conservative thought when he saw this episode in the 1960s: "Wait,
How about conservatives and liberals? The country was a very different place back in those days. So im thinking they all had similar thoughts. Hopefully they were good and they learned something.
Starting to get this vague feeling you just don't like Kurtzman era Trek.
So far ive liked very little. But there are a few things.
Giving Romulans cloaks and having Federation starships see them a century before "Balance of Terror" is a continuity snafu that goes far, far beyond anything that Kurtzman has done. By an order of magnitude. That was actually when I jumped on the "fire B&B" bandwagon. So you say that Kurtzman changed the look of the Klingons? What, again? Gave Spock a previously unknown sibling? What, again? Introduce potentially Galaxy changing technology that never gets mentioned again outside the context of its story? What, again?
The NX wasn't a federation starship. It didnt break continuity. There was never any scree communications.
Berman was hated as much as Kurtzman is now, by a certain part of fandom that just seems to hate an awful lot. I was there during the VOY - ENT years, it was no different than it is now and claims that Berman was destroying continuity were rampant...

IMO, I think Trek has pretty tight continuity, and I think Kurtzman has done quite a lot to unify all the series instead of the opposite...

It was not nearly this bad. Fans had a few complaints but nothing like we are seeing in the Kurtzman era. STD and SNW broke the mist canon of any shows both visually and story wise.
 
The NX wasn't a federation starship. It didnt break continuity. There was never any scree communications.
It definitely did.

Invisibility was only "theoretically possible," per Spock.

So, here we have the crux of the matter. Star Trek shows that are old enough get a pass; excuses are made, head canon weaved, "they didn't know better," or it's significance is diminished.

But, with newer Trek, it gets nitpicked to death with savage autopsy being justified as loving criticism.

It's bullshit.
 
It was not nearly this bad. Fans had a few complaints but nothing like we are seeing in the Kurtzman era. STD and SNW broke the mist canon of any shows both visually and story wise.

It probably was, weve just got social media and a broader use of the internet now than when Voyager debuted, even than when ENT debuted. Anyone with a laptop can set up a YouTube Channel or a Podcast these days.
 
The NX wasn't a federation starship. It didnt break continuity. There was never any scree communications.

Absolutely and utterly irrelevant. The point was that in "Balance of Terror" Spock declared that cloaking technology was theoretical at best. And yet Enterprise gave the Romulans cloaks 100 years before that. That is by far the biggest continuity error in the entire history of the franchise and it's not even a contest.
 
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Absolutely and utterly irrelevant. The point was that in 'Balance of Terror" Spock declared that cloaking technology was theoretical at best. And yet Enterprise gave the Romulans cloaks 100 years before that. That is by far the biggest continuity error in the entire history of the franchise and it's not even a contest.
That is not what Spock said.

SPOCK: Invisibility is theoretically possible, Captain, with selective bending of light. But the power cost is enormous.
 
Absolutely and utterly irrelevant. The point was that in "Balance of Terror" Spock declared that cloaking technology was theoretical at best. And yet Enterprise gave the Romulans cloaks 100 years before that. That is by far the biggest continuity error in the entire history of the franchise and it's not even a contest.

So how did the Enterprise give romulans cloaking technology? I dont remember that at all.
 
Again, justifications for writing errors.

Not a justification. Thats what was in the episode. Those drones were not using cloaking technology. You guys are so desperate to say that Berman trek has worse canon issues than kurtzman so are trying to throw people off. Maybe you all just dont know the Berman Trek to well. Again it was drones that had holographic projection tech and the drones messed with sensors. Thats not how romulan ship cloaks work.
 
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