"11:59" commits the sin of being startlingly lackluster and trope-checklist-ticking for a flashback episode depicting a character's ancestor on the eve of the year 2000. It could have been way better.
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11:59 also ignores Janeway claiming in Future's End that she has no idea what her ancestors were doing in the 1990s. Suddenly she knows all about one of them and, "We were always told stories about her at family gatherings."
Not a big deal, but seeing as we're piling on...
Not a big deal, but seeing as we're piling on...
Harry also mentions a 22nd century ancestor was on a cryogenic sleeper ship, though by the time of ENT or even shortly before that series even early warp ships could make trips so much more efficiently than a cryoship, so while not canon-breaking a comment doesn't jibe too smoothly with what we know about the history of warp travel starting with the DY-series vessels and continuing with Zefram Cochrane.
There's a Kim-cicle out there somewhere,
The story was about getting to Beta Capricus(?) in suspended animation, though by even the early 22nd century you could probably make that journey awake, if taking a while.
Some of us can't afford first class, Mr. Gotscredits!!!!
Seems to be an impossible task around here.
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Teeeeeeeechnically she knew what her ancestor was doing in 2001 and beyond but not before so from a certain point of view not knowing what her ancestors were up to in 1996 isn't too too egregious11:59 also ignores Janeway claiming in Future's End that she has no idea what her ancestors were doing in the 1990s. Suddenly she knows all about one of them and, "We were always told stories about her at family gatherings."
Not a big deal, but seeing as we're piling on...
Must have made for some weird stories. That amazing lady who did something in 2001 but did not exist before that.
So when Janeway says, "I don't know what my relatives were doing this far back in history." she really meant to say, "I know what my relatives were doing five years from now, but at this exact moment in time I have no idea what they might be up to."
Precisely.So when Janeway says, "I don't know what my relatives were doing this far back in history." she really meant to say, "I know what my relatives were doing five years from now, but at this exact moment in time I have no idea what they might be up to."
If you're doing it right, you mean.
The number of Star Trek episodes that are comparable to Far Beyond the Stars can be counted on one hand, so that's not really the best comparison.
Fourteen-year-old Jake in Cirroc's first appearance in the role, and fifty-three-year-old Jake in the most recent.
Pretty sure he's not 53. If he was 14 when filming the pilot in 1992, then he was born in 1978 or so. I was born in '78 and my 48th birthday is Saturday.Fourteen-year-old Jake in Cirroc's first appearance in the role, and fifty-three-year-old Jake in the most recent.
The character is. That hologram is supposed to be from the year 2408.
I got concert Ts older than that,
Jake was 14 in "MOVE ALONG HOME" (his own words in the episode), which was well past the halfway point of 2369, so his birthday can easily be 2355. That hologram was of Jake in 2408: 53 years later.
That math works out.
That math works out.
Did you calculate the Bajoran 26 hour day in the figuring?
You don't have to like Enterprise, I certainly don't. But to claim it's not canon is delusional thinking.
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