Spoilers Starfleet Academy General Discussion Thread

[Ray Hardgrit]

80s Trek was Ms from start to finish, with Meyer giving us the most iconic movie and Maizlish making a mess of TNG. It got better when Maurice took over the writers room and people like Melinda M could write episodes like Measure of a Man, but he was eventually replaced by Michael Wagner. That Michael only produced four episodes written by Michael Piller, Michael Wagner, Melinda again and Manning, and then the other Michael took over, bringing in the legendary Moore and Menosky.

 

[Jayson1]

Can't forget Nicholas Meyer and how he saved the TOS movies.

 

[fireproof78]

Can't forget Nicholas Meyer and how he saved the TOS movies.

With death threats and violating Gene"s vision by making a more action oriented film than the last one.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Enterprise did have season 4. Before Matalas was our GOD their was Manny Cotto. Before him Michael Pillar and also Ron Moore. Ever noticed how our GODs have names that start with a M?

Please, I'm just a poster like the rest of you,

 

[Jayson1]

With death threats and violating Gene"s vision by making a more action oriented film than the last one.

death threats?

 

[fireproof78]

death threats?

Death threats towards him and Harve Bennett.

 

[Jayson1]

Death threats towards him and Harve Bennett.

Don't recall that. Not that I am surprised. That seems like a common thing celebrities are always facing. I do know how much Roddenberry hated them since he lost control of the movies to them.

 

[fireproof78]

Don't recall that. Not that I am surprised. That seems like a common thing celebrities are always facing. I do know how much Roddenberry hated them since he lost control of the movies to them.

You and Roddenberry conversed on this hatred often? Imagine hating someone for a decision they didn't make

 

[Jayson1]

You and Roddenberry conversed on this hatred often? Imagine hating someone for a decision they didn't make

Roddenberry was quoted a great deal when it comes to his dislike for Wrath of Khan. Meyer has also talked about conflicts he had with him.

 

[fireproof78]

Roddenberry was quoted a great deal when it comes to his dislike for Wrath of Khan. Meyer has also talked about conflicts he had with him.

I have no doubt. The phrasing struck me as amusing.

But, it's sad to me nonetheless that Meyer got the ire

 

[Turtletrekker]

And let's be honest with ourselves here, a lot of Gene Roddenberry's ire towards Star Trek II and Nicholas Meyer was jealousy and sour grapes..

 

[Campe]

Fictional universes have rules to how they work otherwise they can't be consistent with themselves.

Warp speed has always been defined by the speed of the plot. Phasers have always done what the story demands it to. While rules exist, I don’t deny that, most of the time they are fairly bendable.

 

[Firebird]

Turbolift speeds in Star Trek have been some of the most varied in the franchise based on plot needs. Wasn't there a TOS episode where the trip between two decks took something like three minutes?

What's "turbo" about that?

 

[Tuskin38]

Discovery of all series actually had a warp 1 travel scene that was in real time.

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[cooleddie74]

Turbolift speeds in Star Trek have been some of the most varied in the franchise based on plot needs. Wasn't there a TOS episode where the trip between two decks took something like three minutes?

What's "turbo" about that?

"Amok Time" had a notorious turbolift scene where Kirk confronts Spock about his erratic and violent behavior and the Captain has to verbally strongarm his first officer into agreeing to report to Sickbay to be examined. That was way too long to get from the Bridge to, say, Deck 3 or 4.

 

[Mudd]

But equally I don't think Star Trek should belabour 21st century national identities, which may well be redundant or significantly changed by the 32nd century.

No one in the 32nd century will watch Star Trek, and no one who gives a damn about Trek will ever know what the 32nd century will be like.

We just watched a show where college kids do shots in a San Francisco bar. Let's not pretend that any attempts to envision a real far future are at play anywhere in the production. Like all TV that matters, it's made for now. Erasing aspects of our identities is the wrong way to lean.

 

[Mudd]

...post including mine that have not been disproven.

"Not disproven" is...a low bar to claim to clear.


Nice attempt but try again.

 

[Stewey]

Warp speed has always been defined by the speed of the plot. Phasers have always done what the story demands it to. While rules exist, I don’t deny that, most of the time they are fairly bendable.

Little things like that sure, but when you are planning to make a prequel to 4 previously established shows worth of backstory, plus 10 movies, you don't make the core thing like I dunno; the hero ship of the show be named and depicted as a ship that never existed in canon.

 

[Campe]

Little things like that sure, but when you are planning to make a prequel to 4 previously established shows worth of backstory, plus 10 movies, you don't make the core thing like I dunno; the hero ship of the show be named and depicted as a ship that never existed in canon.

If you’re discussing Discovery, who’s to say it didn’t exist?
If you’re talking about Enterprise, it’s been over two decades since it was on the air. Let it the fuck go. Your schtick wasn’t amusing in 2002. It’s not amusing now.

 

[Farscape One]

I think ENT got far more right than they got wrong in their 4 years.