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Rank the Trek series

Interesting...

TOS, TNG, and DS9 seem to consistently score high.

DIS is polarizing, but it has a solid fanbase for all that; it's topped a few lists.

LD has proved to be the favorite for some viewers as well.

SNW typically ranks high, and in a few seasons might be topping lists.

VOY scraped one win, but mostly rates well below the shows most like it (TNG and DS9).

ENT, PIC, and PRO don't appear to be anyone's main cup of Earl Gray.
 
1. The gold standard: TOS. No other Star Trek production was as impactful, creatively satisfying or groundbreaking (with the runaway most charismatic series leads) as the series which still remains the face and general perception of the Star Trek concept, and for undeniable reasons.

2. TAS. The best sequel series one could ask for short of another live action production, easily picking up where TOS left off, just as Roddenberry and Fontana had promised in '73.

100. TNG (because there's that much of a creative / Trek-representation at its best drop between TOS/TAS and all that followed. Perhaps at some time in the future, some ST series will come along to fill spots 3 - 99. That has not happened as of this date.

101. DS9.

102. ENT's final season.

103. VOY.
 
TOS Films 2 to 6
DS9 Seasons 3 to 6
TNG Seasons 3 to 7
Enterprise Season 4
DS9 Seasons 1 to 2
Voyager
Enterprise Season 3
Kelvin Films
Star Wreck In The Pirkinning
Galaxy Quest
Enterprise Seasons 1 and 2
DS9 Season 7
TNG Films
TNG Seasons 1 to 2
TMP
Discovery

SNW, Lower Decks, Picard and the other one I haven't watched.
And I haven't watched enough TOS to rank it but I really enjoy it (same with TAS). God I love A Private Little War. That is my favourite episode of TOS.
 
1.DS9 for being consistently good, having great characters (some of the best in Star Trek)
2.Lower Decks, for being incredibly entertaining, funny, clever in many episodes and having great and relatable characters plus the animation and designs are really good.
3.SNW also for being consistently good, being a great modern Star Trek show and having great, very likeable characters (again some of the best in Trek).
4.TNG, when TNG is good, it is very good. When TNG isn't good its boring or cirngeworthy. But it's still overall a great show with some great characters and other characters that have unrealized potential. Plus it's still a very beautiful show to look at and has the nicest ship. Yet it very much shows its age too.

And then it gets complicated.
VOY is good in some parts, especially when Seven is concerned, but really, really dumb or boring and bad in other parts. Particularly Janeway; when she's written well she's badass, but she's so inconsistently written and often ends up being a dumbass, or worse, a hypocrite instead. Several other characters are either annoying or bland as the colour beige.
TOS...has some good episodes, but the characters are too old fashioned in behaviour for me and so often come off as unlikeable or annoying to me, especially Chekov, McCoy and "Scotty", plus all the damn "they find god but it's an alienz" episodes. Plus there's no interesting female main/recurring characters.
Spock and the Enterprise Incident alone can't save that show for me, yet I can't call it as bad as the bad shows, but I also can't call it a favourite or consistently enjoyable to me.
DISC...I like many of the characters, most of them actually, but the first Season was awful in my opinion and after that it couldn't really be salvaged for me and I generally find the storylines uninteresting.

So let's just call all three of them of them 5?

Then it gets easy(er) again.
6.ENT The temporal cold war is awful and boring. The characters are idiots and assholes (both in general and to each other) and it comes across like it actively celebrates human bigotry and stupidity.
7.TAS It's TOS...with awful animation. Though I guess at least Chekov is gone, so there's one positive thing about it.
8.PIC Now I do think the quality of the writing is quite good (definitely better than TAS or ENT) but I really, really hate this show.

Haven't seen anything of Prodigy beyond the pilot, but it just didn't seem like something I'd be very interested in, and I say that as someone who will totally watch well written cartoon shows.
 
1. TOS
2. DS9
3. TNG
4. SNW
5. ENT
6. VOY
7. LD
8. PRO
9. PIC
10. DSC
 
Time to update the rankings to include modern trek! From top to bottom:

1. STRANGE NEW WORLDS
2. DEEP SPACE NINE
3. LOWER DECKS
4. THE ORIGINAL SERIES
5. THE NEXT GENERATION
6. PRODIGY
7. PICARD
8. DISCOVERY
9. VOYAGER
10. ENTERPRISE

I'm still a Niner deep down, but hot damn, Strange New Worlds has stolen my heart. Also, keep in mind that the degree of favorability isn't really that far apart. Quite frankly, the top 5 would be fighting it out for number 1 position if I really broke it down. So, don't feel bad if your favorite isn't near the top, because I still like it.
 
Television:

1)TOS & TAS (since they are the same mission)
2) Enterprise
3) Strange New Worlds
4) TNG
5) DS9
6) Prodigy
7) VOY
8) Picard
9) Discovery
10) Lower Decks

Movies:

1) The Voyage Home
2) First Contact
3) The Wrath of Khan
4) The Motion Picture (Directors Cut)
5) Star Trek (2009)
6) The Undiscovered Country
7) Beyond
8) Search for Spock
9) Final Frontier
10) Generations
11) Into Darkness
12) Insurrection
13) Nemesis

Honorable Mentions:
New Voyages
Continues
Of Gods and Men
Renegades
 
I forgot to add TAS to my list. It'd rank lowest of all out of 11 series.
 
I've been searching if such a thread already, but didn't find one ... please excuse me, if I overlooked it.

So ... how do you personally rank the now 11 Star Trek shows, and why?

Here is my current list (naturally, it may change over time):

1. TOS, TNG and DS9 -- They share spot #1 and are the Trek "gold standard" for me. I can't decide which I like more, and fortunately, I don't have to, so they share #1. Each of them was original and took the franchise forward.
TOS paved the way for all that would come, invented the basics and features the rarely met chemistry of the perfect trio of Kirk, Spock and Bones. TNG has the best standalone stories, great characters and the cosy 90s "living room feeling". DS9 took the formula further with the best arc, the best character development and the best portrayal of alien races.

4. SNW -- Maybe it's too early to place this series so high on my list, as I've only seen the first 6 episodes so far, and the amazement of novelty still clouds my judgment. But I haven't enjoyed new Trek as much as the first season of SNW in a long time.

5. Lower Decks -- Of all new Trek series, it "feels" most like "old" Trek. I don't mind the self-irony, and feel it's a really lovable and clever self-parody, although season 1 was still a bit lame. I also like that it's the only Trek show my older daughter likes watching with me.

6. Picard -- Arguably, the writing is lacking and incoherent at times, but imo, the show makes that up with wonderful character moments. Data's farewell and Picard's goodbye to Q were stellar, imo. I also like the supporting characters. The show maybe didn't live up to its potential and wasted quite a few opportunities, but on the bottom line, I still enjoy it.

7. ENT -- A mixed bag. Seasons 1 and 2 were too much trying "to play it safe" and lacked originality, but I like the characters and their chemistry (moreso than in VOY). Season 3 was too militaristic and influenced by post-9/11 paranoia, for my taste, and I felt introducing the Xindi was misplaced in a prequel. But season 4 was absolutely stellar, imo. Too bad the show didn't start with the style of season 4.

8. Prodigy -- Clearly aiming at viewers of the age between 6 and 12, and initially targeting fans of the animated Star Wars shows, but I still felt during the course of the first 13 episodes, a real "Star Trek feeling" came up. Not bad for a kids' show, imo.

9. VOY -- After DS9, this show was a step back, imo. Few character development, always the reset button at the end of an episode, playing it safe by rehashing old ideas ... and the characters didn't really resonate with me. It didn't help VOY that it ran parallel to the much superior DS9, imo.

10. TAS -- Some ideas are decent, but in the end, the cheap production values kind of alienate me, most of the time. Always the same music playing, cheap animation that is no match for modern animation ... I guess I wouldn't miss anything if this show didn't exist.

11. Discovery -- At first, I really tried to like this show, and repeatedly tried to give it a chance ... but around season 4, I just realize that this show doesn't give me anything, or that I'm just not the target audience. The season arcs are total nonesense, imo. Especially the character of Burnham irritates me, I feel the writers can't decide what she is supposed to be -- all-knowing and never-failing Mary Sue or emotionally unstable crybaby, compared to whom even Counselor Troi appears like a stable stoicist, hero or antihero? I can't stand the melodrama. And there were many WTF moments that really made me angry, like the crew mourning the goodbye of mirror Georgiou (would the DS9 crew have been equally sad if Dukat had been gone? Why did this genocidal tyrant deserve praise?), or the "emotional" farewell to this half-android character that pretended we all had an emotional attachment to her, although this character had barely had a line to speak before ... in the end, it's a show with lots of eye candy that might be enjoyable, if you manage not to think too much about the plot. But that's too few, imo.

So for my current ranking. How about you?
 
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Well, since this topic has returned to the public eye, I decided to redo my ranks based on seeing ST, TAS, and more of Prodigy. Changes are in boldface.

TOS - 6/10. Controversial, I know. But I could never quite get used to the cheesy effects, and focus on so few characters.
TAS - 5/10, provisional. This one hasn't overly impressed me, the few episodes I've seen. But I haven't given up yet; maybe it'll grow on me.
TNG - 9/10. Despite some clunky episodes early on, and the episode I still hate the most in all Trek, a very solid experience.
DS9 - 8/10. Dark and gritty at times. But it didn't pound repeatedly on the Big Red Reset Button, relying instead on serialization and developing characters.
VOY - 7/10. Outstanding characters, but sloppy execution and the steadfast refusal to live up to its potential. Plus a couple of really dumb "in-jokes" that didn't make sense and weren't funny. But, despite all that, it still has a comfort food aspect to it.
ENT - 6/10. Great potential as well, but dragged down by the unnecessary temporal cold war, and insisting on using the same Trek technology (transporters, photon torpedoes) as was used 200y later. Maybe that shouldn't bother me, but it did
DSC - 4/10. Tried to get through the first three seasons. Bogged down all three times.
PIC - 6/10. Dark and often dreary, but saved by satisfying endings to both seasons, and by great characters (new and returning).
ST - 7/10. Kind of mixed here... some good stuff, some not to my taste. Highlights were the tardigrades cartoon and the one with Pike in it.
LD - 8/10. Though Mariner can be irritating as a character, this bouncy and silly effort is usually fun to watch.
PRO - 9/10. Though not dedicated to my demographic, this show is very true to the spirit of Trek, and its stories and cliffhangers have just gotten better and better. Rok-tak, Jankom, and of course both Janeways are my favorite characters. Only downside: I thought Murf was cuter as a slug.
SNW - 8/10, provisional. Looks to combine aspects of TNG and TOS, with 2020's FX. I see serious potential here.
 
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Updated Rankings for Me:

1. TOS
2. DS9
3. TNG
4. SNW
5. ENT
6. VOY
7. PRO
8. LD
9. PIC
10. DSC
11. TAS
 
I'm holding off on updating my list, for two reasons:
  • I'm waiting to watch the season finale of Prodigy to see how it turns out.
  • Season 2 hurt Picard, but Season 3 (from the looks of it) will probably make up for it.

DSC, SNW, and LD are secure in terms of what I think of them. PRO is secure-ish; waiting until the finale is only a formality. It's really just PIC that's up in the air.
 
It's actually very hard to do this, since many series have decades of nostalgia behind them, while others have only had 10 recent episodes.... So to logically determine whether one series is 'better' than the other, is almost impossible. If you were a kid in the 60's, and have fond memories of watching TOS' first run with your family, that's going to have a tremendous effect on your assessment of the show. I became a Trekkie around 1994, so for me, series like TNG or DS9 spoke to me a lot more than TOS.
As for Star Trek Discovery, I think it's without a doubt the most underrated series of all. I think it's the most unique Trek show, and it took the greatest risks. I kind of get the feeling that some people just make these lists so they can put DSC on the bottom of it, for whatever reason. Give the show a fair chance. I think DSC is the most human, the most emotive Trek of all, and while some hate it for that, it's the thing that sets it apart for me.
Having said that, I literally like ALL of Trek. I have my favourites, but series that are at the bottom of my list are not series that I hate or despise, on the contrary.

1. Star Trek The Next Generation
2. Star Trek Deep Space Nine
3. Star Trek Discovery
4. Star Trek
5. Star Trek Voyager
6. Star Trek Lower Decks
7. Star Trek Strange New Worlds
8. Star Trek Picard
9. Star Trek Enterprise
10. Star Trek Prodigy
11. Star Trek The Animated Series
12. Star Trek Short Treks
 
I tried watching the first three seasons of Discovery, got bogged down all three times. Does that mean it's a bad show? No, of course not. It's just not the Trek I put on when I want to watch Trek.
 
1) TOS
2) DS9
3) TNG

A few years back, it would've been DS9 - no contest. When I did my deep dive into all things Trek in the mid-90s, I primarily consumed the Berman era. Now, my appreciation of TOS has only grown with time.

Honestly, those three series are the core of Trek for me. I'd be quite happy with the above and all the films up to First Contact. That's still a hefty whack of content!

4) VOY -- I don't have any great love for Voyager, but it had a damned good middle in it's 4th season with some cracking two-parters. Seven of Nine - as well as going full CGI in the FX department - really leant the show a new lease of life. There were some memorable episodes earlier on of course - the Q-centered Death Wish for example. The latter part of the series had it's moments, but I started checking out after RDM's departure in S6. And I always liked Mulgrew.

5) ENT -- Oh, Enterprise. You had potential. S3 had some solid moments. Truthfully, I remember little of the earlier seasons. But I gave up early season 2 and only caught up on the series years later. If there were a series that ought to have pushed some boundaries, it was ENT.

6) DSC -- A show with even more (squandered) potential - born in the age of prestige TV and eye-watering budgets - Ira Steven Behr would've killed to have Disco's annual budget. I think S1 up to Lorca's moustache-twirling turn was damn solid.

7) SNW -- Fairly solid opening. Light, quippy, carefree, but lacking depth. I lost interest midway thru the season. I'll give it another chance; it's possible I was just burned out from so much subpar Trek I wasn't going to be happy with anything short of sublime. If S2 is strong enough it might move up a few spots.

8) PRO -- I didn't mind the first half of S1 but there's no way round the fact this is a kids' show. I'm not the target audience. Good for what it is, from what I saw.

9) LD -- I have tried, but the humor is grating. Yes, I get all the references to the things I know. I watched the first and last episode of S3 - I am not compelled to see what I missed in the middle.

N/A -- TAS (only watching one or two episodes).

Permanently Last) PIC -- I didn't mind S1 - up until the two-part finale. S2 on the other hand was an abomination. I have no good feelings about S3 and won't be watching unless reviewers whom I trust can assure me Matalas has course corrected and sentiment hasn't gone off a cliff by mid-season.
 
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Although I do not favor the cartoons over live action, nor comedy over drama, I have to say that LD & PRO are the most well done of the new series. And if SNW would abondon GenZ vocabulary on a starship, it would be, too.

I think Disco & Picard are emo-driven and often make little actual sense. I mean, ONE guy having a hissy fit causes the Burn? Really? Why was Q sick?

Still, my preference for live-action and bias towards shows that are completed vs 10 shows in mostly pulls VOY/ENT/PIC/DISCO above SNW/LD/PRO for me.......for the moment.

But if you ask me which shows are the most well-done, I think it is LD & PRO in a runaway amongst the new crop. DISCO & PIC meander too much & often make no sense, despite some really good acting.

If I had to project when all is said & done:

1. TNG/TOS/DS9
2. SNW/LD/PRO
-----------------
3. VOY
4. ENT
5. PIC
6. DISCO
7. TAS
8. ST

I will say that SMG is incredible, and I think she does a fantastic job of setting the tone and familial aspect to DISCO that is probably the best since TNG.

The serialized series just have failed to stick the landing for me. Always a big flaw/disappointment in the finale, despite some good stuff earlier (PIC, DISCO 1-3). And the stories are so obviously manipulated to try to give maximum personal emotional impact that they kinda lose the plot sometimes (Disco S3-S4).
 
I answered this earlier, but I don’t recall what I said…so I’m answering again and I’ll go back and see if it was the same or different.

1. TOS: The original that started it all. All the foundational world building. The amazing chemistry between the leads that has often been copied but never recaptured. An awesome combo of thoughtful science fiction with fun action/adventure. It also showed that the format can be a vehicle for almost anything: social commentary, romance, drama, action, political intrigue, comedy, courtroom drama. It is and always will be the best.

2. DS9: This was the first show that took the Star Trek format and expanded it in a very different direction, while never losing sight of the importance of characters and exciting stories. It had great production values, a fantastic extended cast, a rich and detailed world, and was the best “serialized” take on Trek to date.

3. PRO: I’m shocked even as I write this, as I’m not a huge fan of animation and I’m also not the “target demographic “ for this. But to me, this is everything that LD as an animated series is not. It’s very thoughtful, widely accessible, has a full cast of extremely likable characters, and unbelievably captures the spirit of Star Trek while still taking things in a very different direction. There hasn’t been an episode I’ve found unentertaining yet, and the pacing/story arcs/visual style are all virtually flawless.

4. TNG: Honestly, TNG should be 3rd, but I did a rewatch very recently and I found so much of it (too much) to be a mundane slog. It’s just so static and formulaic. As flawed as the first two seasons are, in retrospect they feel more exciting and engaging than the later seasons. Still, the cast is brilliant, the visuals are still beautiful to this day, and the best of TNG still blows away the best of almost any other series.

5. DSC: This series is so interesting and I really hope some day a tell-all book gets written. This used to be higher on my list, I’m quite sure. But, as much as the first two seasons excited with unique characters, twisty storytelling, huge (sometimes ill -advised) risks and stunning visuals….the last two seasons have been muddled and bogged-down in a massive amount of unnatural-feeling self-consciousness that has created a strangely disconnected experience for me as a viewer. The first two seasons were up there with DS9 for risky, exciting stories and plots. The last two seasons remind me more of rejected VOY scripts with the names and some details changed. They’re not bad, but they are oddly paced, plotted, and toned. S5 should be interesting….

6. SNW: Probably too early to tell, but SNW could soar much higher depending on how S2 goes. There were a few great 9/10 episodes, and then some inexplicable 5 or 6/10 episodes that were just totally off. But, a fantastic cast, awesome visuals, and genuine attempt to re-capture TOS’s tone and feel make this an early high-potential to rise into a top-3 spot for me.

7. VOY: I used to put This one in last place. A recent watch-through has proven that is unfair. And, maybe my tastes have changed as I’ve gotten older. This show gets criticized for being too comfy and too generic. Honestly, it’s true…but I find that’s why I like it. It’s a cozy/comfortable Trek that is not particularly engaging, but also not particularly objectionable either. And again, all Treks can be different, and this one has its place for sure.

8. ENT: I now view ENT and VOY much the same way…but ENT has too many longer stretches of “blah” that cause me to rank it a little lower. Still, when I watched much of it for the first time several years ago, I found it to be very enjoyable and engaging, despite some obvious flaws.

9. TAS: Good stuff, especially with the original cast and designs, but it’s just too low-quality for me to be really nostalgic or engaged with it.

10. ST: Tough one to rate, because it’s admittedly just some random experimental stuff set in the Trek universe. But, for that reason, it’s pretty cool. And, “Calypso,” and “Children of Mars” are both unique and absolutely beautiful additions to Star Trek.

11. LD: Admittedly I come in with an inherent bias towards not liking animation. But, it’s just too silly and inconsistent for me to really like it too much. It has some legit 9/10 episodes, but it also has two episodes I have been embarrassed by and turned off, which I’ve never ever done with Trek before. And much of the rest of it is just “ok fun but immediately forgettable” stuff. I do absolutely love the call-backs and Easter eggs…but the dizzying OCD pace, annoying characters, and juvenile humor are just not for me. I primarily watch for the call-backs.
 
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