Have you ever given up on a Trek series? If so, what was the last straw for you?

[ZapBrannigan]

In my book, Gary Seven and Roberta Lincoln quietly removed those items before they could do any harm.

Mister Seven must have an impressive ability to surveil the world with that bank vault gizmo of his, because most people would have no idea a cloaked bird of prey had even come back through time, let alone what Chekov was up to. He had Google beat, and this was before they existed.

 

[Tim Walker]

An interstellar Buc-ees with Quarks attached like a Pub/Casino with a no one under 21 sign. And the boss lives with his kid in a trailer across the parking lot. I heard on-sight security was a little slimy.

Description of Buc-ees.

Actually, I am imagining a Buc-ees springing up next to Wall Drug.

Add a casino....

 

[Colonel Midnight]

I pretty much left ‘Modern Trek’ when Seven showed up on VOY. The ridiculous catsuit outfit made it clear what demographic B&B were aiming for ratings-wise.

Add it in with of VOY’s other missed opportunities, followed by ENT… I’d joke with people that it was ‘Tease Trek’ — TPTB would puff up about how ‘new’, ‘edgy’, ‘hard-hitting’ and ‘sexy’ the new Star Trek adventures were going to be… only for it to be a tighter catsuit, a couple of phaser (sorry, ‘phase cannon’ ) shots, and a whiny milquetoast captain.

I check in with it with every new attempt (haven’t had a chance yet with PRO or SFA yet), and if it does ring some interest (SNW has/had potential, I’ll admit), then I’ll watch for a bit, but that’s about it.

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[The Salt Umpire]

Seven's T&A wasn't enough to get me to like VOY more as a whole. I faded in and out as VOY went thru the seasons, the first episode was great and then it seemed to slowly degrade as the series progressed. There were long stretches where I didn't watch it at all, but when I occasionally tuned back in, there wasn't enough difference or improvement to draw me back in.

 

[ZapBrannigan]

You guys missed it. Seven of Nine was the best part of Voyager, not for her physique but for her series-long character arc. She was gradually freed from her Borg upbringing, and out came the person. Her relationship with the Doctor was amazing. He even taught music to her.

VOY had its full share of episodes that fell flat, especially before Seven came along, but Seven's highlights were as good as anything on TNG.

 

[1001001]

You guys missed it. Seven of Nine was the best part of Voyager, not for her physique but for her series-long character arc.

Correct.

The focus on her body probably says more about the viewer than it does the character.

Seven’s arc over the franchise is one of my absolute favorite things about Star Trek.

 

[fireproof78]

check in with it with every new attempt (haven’t had a chance yet with PRO or SFA yet), and if it does ring some interest (SNW has/had potential, I’ll admit), then I’ll watch for a bit, but that’s about it.

Watching a show only when it interests you? Weird.

You guys missed it. Seven of Nine was the best part of Voyager, not for her physique but for her series-long character arc. She was gradually freed from her Borg upbringing, and out came the person. Her relationship with the Doctor was amazing. He even taught music to her.

VOY had its full share of episodes that fell flat, especially before Seven came along, but Seven's highlights were as good as anything on TNG.

Seven's arc could be good but the emphasis on the doctor drove me insane and often felt too focused on the Doctor and Janeway.

The advertising was further off putting and emphasized the visual and sexualization of Seven. And that was not attractive to me. The Borg was the final straw.

 

[Noname Given]

He beamed in wearing only his surgical butt-gown. Clothes made of unknown synthetics, metals of strange alloys, depleted phaser, communicator...all left behind for 3 letter agencies to reverse engineer. Kirk might have just as well offered us a cut of the deal and saved time...

Hey, how do you think PC CPUs advanced so quickly in just 40 years?

 

[The Salt Umpire]

Exactly! The 286 processor might as well be an abacus now.

 

[Just a Bill]

Seven of Nine was the best part of Voyager ... Her relationship with the Doctor was amazing. ... Seven's highlights were as good as anything on TNG.

This. Even my wife has commented more than once that Seven wasn't just there for the sex appeal, she was actually a great addition to the crew. Well written, well performed, with a surprising amount of pathos for such an unemotional character. To this day, the relationship between Seven and the Doctor is my daughter's favorite thing about Voyager.

Focusing on the catsuit definitely buries the lead.

 

[Rowdy Roddy McDowall]

Correct.

The focus on her body probably says more about the viewer than it does the character.

Seven’s arc over the franchise is one of my absolute favorite things about Star Trek.

Or the production team.

I got a big sense of deja vu every time she told her crewmates ''You will fail.''

 

[maneth]

Wait, are you saying that there aren't any paradoxes in The Voyage Home? Because Kirk's glasses, the formula for transparent aluminum, Chekov leaving behind a shorted-out Klingon phaser (and possibly his Starfleet ID?), and probably others I'm forgetting. And if the Sulu's great-great-grandfather scene had made into the movie, it would've been even worse, paradox-wise.

Fun fact, TM Hartnett and RL Gentilman were granted a patent by the US Patent Office in 1984 for aluminum oxynitride (ALON) a.k.a. transparent aluminum. Granted, the chemical formula doesn't match what's shown in The Voyage Home, but I do think it's rather cool. The US Air Force has been testing ALON-based armor since 2005 so I suspect it's only a matter of time before it'll be used on jet fighters.

 

[Australis]

I pretty much left ‘Modern Trek’ when Seven showed up on VOY. The ridiculous catsuit outfit made it clear what demographic B&B were aiming for ratings-wise.

Agreeing with others, Seven was one of, if not the, best part of VOY.

What show did I give up on? DSC. All the feeeeelings , all the tears and hugging, not to mention the source of the Burn. What a waste.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

I suppose I should note in this thread that, at this moment in time, I've only watched the first five episodes of Starfleet Academy and I'm not really sure if I'll bother finishing out the season. I found most of the student characters to be annoying assholes*, so there wasn't much to make me want to continue watching past those first four weeks. I stuck with other streaming shows I was enjoying more, like The Pitt, DTF St. Louis, and the revival of Scrubs.

I may go back and check out another episode or two of SA, but it'd probably be just to see Paul Giamatti again more than any other reason. But right now, I'm more interesting in starting Shrinking or Rooster than finishing out Starfleet Academy.

*Except for the hologram girl. She was cool. The rest of them... Ugh.

 

[BillJ]

I suppose I should note in this thread that, at this moment in time, I've only watched the first five episodes of Starfleet Academy and I'm not really sure if I'll bother finishing out the season.

I’ve watched seven episodes. Number six, “Come, Let’s Dark”, really is good Star Trek. Though it comes crashing back down with number seven.

 

[Set Harth]

that would have been a weird title if that really was the title! ( not that they don't have weird titles )

 

[BillJ]

that would have been a weird title if that really was the title! ( not that they don't have weird titles )

“Come, Let’s Away”. Thanks for the correction.

Though I like my title better!

 

[Farscape One]

I’ve watched seven episodes. Number six, “Come, Let’s Dark”, really is good Star Trek. Though it comes crashing back down with number seven.

Episode 8 was even worse... among the worst in the entire franchise.