Agents of SHIELD. Season 1 Discussion Thread

I wasn't trying to 'wow you with her specialness'. I was refuting your claim that she had never shown the empathy and insight that Coulson pointed out in this episode before. And that's something that YOU are conveniently leaving out.

And I don't have to point out that Skye fucked up with Mike Peterson, because Coulson did it for me. He said that this was a chance to see it done right.

 

Well sure, but I only just now returned to the thread and saw that I had been snarked.

 

No, there were plenty of Kung Fu episodes where he fought Indians.

 

The biggest issue for me is that while there is a lot of talk about how good she is at hacking, that aspect of her seems to exist in a vacuum. It is like a superpower that she just has, rather than a skill she has to develop and practice. Her hacking is the sonic screwdriver they pull out when they need to solve a problem with the plot.

Chloe seems plenty capable, but the material is weak and frustrating. I can only hope they have her possessed by an inter-dimensional alien already and move past the mistake of the Skye character.

 

I'm flashing back to the halcyon days of Enterprise here.

And yet she also says things that the others don't understand.

 

I enjoyed the episode but I thought it was weaker than the last few. I though it was weird how Skye suddenly worked out that Tobias was in love with the woman from the mention of the word 'childish'. Not really sure I followed the thought process there. They seem to be hinting that she has some gift so perhaps that is a part of it.

The other bit I thought was a bit strange was how they left it. So Tobias is just stranded in another dimension now? I mean, he's not actually dead. Are they going to try and find a way to bring him back?

The ending kinda reminded me of some Trek episodes, where there was a bit of a sad conclusion to the episode but then the crew were on the bridge making jokes.

 

Because sometimes all it takes is one word to start off a train of thought. Children tend to show affection for a child of the opposite sex by actually being mean to them...I took it to mean that that stray thought got her thinking about love as opposed to anger. All just in my opinion, naturally.

 

Well since I strongly believe that Skye is actually Jessica Drew, I guess that would explain it. As for Tobias, it would be REALLY COOL if he showed up in the next Thor movie. We could just see him wandering Muspelheim when Thor comes across him and saves him. 5 minutes of awesome continuity.

 

Skye as Jessica Drew?! Interesting! She's definitely got the look for it.

 

And this is different from 99% of all TV/movie hackers how?

Except he wasn't being mean to her, he was attacking other people who were being mean to her. He was trying to protect her in a childishly excessive and ill-considered manner, and was too immature to realize how much he was frightening her in the process.

I think by that point the team had enough evidence to piece that together; it wasn't exactly hard to deduce that it was the people around her who were being attacked when they started to threaten her. At first the team thought she was trying to protect herself, but once it became clear someone else was lashing out at the people threatening her, it was really kind of a no-brainer that he thought he was protecting her. If anything, it's not that Skye showed any unusual insight; rather, it's surprising the rest of the team didn't see it. But perhaps that's because they were too much in their SHIELD-trained "go after the enemy" mindset, seeing him as an aggressor, and not considering what his actual motives might be.

 

For some reason that made me think of Riptide, the 1980s surfer/detective series with the big pink helicopter. Even then they had a hacker character who could do almost anything with his trusty giant laptop (and a portable satellite antenna to log on with).

 

Movie/TV computer hacking = magic. Give a movie hacker a laptop and he can bring down an entire alien armada.

 

I know that. I wasn't describing what was actually happening, only saying that the thought is what led Skye off in the right direction. (And until that moment, none of the team had entertained the notion that he was protecting her, so that wasn't a factor yet.)

I wasn't arguing that's how it should be viewed, only that I chose to do so.

 

Somehow, Jeff Goldblum is slightly more convincing in the role. As is Simon Pegg, Carrie-Anne Moss, Noomi Rapace, Jesse Eisenberg, Jeff Bridges, and a few dozen others who have played the 'hacker' role in TV and film over the last 40 years.

I'm pretty much over the excuse of "Well, everybody does it." She is a main character in this show. It might be amusing every once in a while for a miracle-working hacker to pull off the impossible with a blackberry and some twine as if it is nothing at all, but when they're one of the primary protagonists in the story I expect better.

 

Jessica Drew? Explain that. Other than being an attractive brunette,I don't see Jessica.

 

<<Jessica Drew? Explain that. Other than being an attractive brunette,I don't see Jessica. >>
I was going solely off looks

 

She doesn't look like an Infantino girl.