That’s how I’m feeling. This one was really middle of the road… for the show’s current baseline.If I had not watched season three, I'd have thought a lot less of this ep. Knowing how much worse it could have been made me feel more forgiving.
That’s how I’m feeling. This one was really middle of the road… for the show’s current baseline.If I had not watched season three, I'd have thought a lot less of this ep. Knowing how much worse it could have been made me feel more forgiving.
The only thing I like about Spock and La'an is Star Trek is generally lacking in open or casual relationships. Yes Riker and Kirk get laid every week James Bond style but we rarely see casual between major characters.They've mishandled that whole thing pretty badly. Spock/La'an just doesn't work, and barely gets any screentime to work. It's a really poor replacement for the Spock and Chapel stuff, especially since Chapel just doesn't have much to do without it.
All true.Not necessarily. Could be a love story, tragic or otherwise, or just something involving deep emotions and relationships.
In my experience, SF fans too often dismiss as "soap opera" stories that focus on feelings and relationships instead of, say, quantum event horizons.
Not just a Star Trek thing, but an SF thing going back to the fifties at least. "Science fiction is about ideas, not personal soap operas!"
It was funny; the characters were delightful. Thus is a great cast.In a world where we get 22-26 episode a season, such a low budget comedy episode would have worked. But when we only get 10 episodes a season this was such a waste of time ...
Roughly 55% of the vote is 7 or higher. Seems like most of us think this was an okay enough episode.
Exactly so.Roughly 55% of the vote is 7 or higher. Seems like most of us think this was an okay enough episode.
...while others see 1 to 10 and consider anything below 6 as a failing grade.
This is always the thing for me too. It feels like almost every episode ends up getting a really high score.I dunno. It's hard to say, because some folks treat 5 as an average episode, while others see 1 to 10 and consider anything below 6 as a failing grade.

You haven't seen Watership Down until you see it in original Klingonese.Una singing Bonnie Tyler in Klingon was a high point.![]()
Yeah. The Last two episodes are pretty much loose adaptations of other work. But the days of sci fi morality tales in star trek may be over. I.think its just moved into relationship stories inside a thin adventure. Im impressed that TOS and the Berman era shows kept up the quality of story telling as well as they did. TOS had 80 episodes and the Berman era has 600 plus. More good stories than bad. A real amazing run. The Kurtzman era it seems they have a tough time with 10 episodes per season on a show that has separate episode stories. Its so tough that that take a lot from classic trek like like trelane and the gorn and movie adaptations. Also from Alien, Harry Potter, buffy the vampire slayer etv. STD and STP did one story seasons. It seems today's writers just aren't chock full of ideas like past writers. Too bad. Well we have a Muppet episode coming up. No TV show has done that before........oh wait. Lol
Yeah. It was another obvious homage to another movie. The movie was much funnier and better. There a few good moments. Spock straighting out his "messy" room. But cringe moments like his seeing Scotty and Ortegas as plants more than once. It was dumb.The weakest of the season so far for me.
It had some good moments, and character development, but the whole premise? Nope, not for me. I generally dislike the idea that the only way to relax and have fun is to abuse all sorts of substances, get hammered, and forget everything by the time hangover comes. With this premise, this episode had no chance to not annoy me.
I had a similar conversation in the real world recently, where I said SNW is what TOS would have been had it been made in modern times instead.I always compare Strange New Worlds to The Original Series. It's just the most natural comparison, in my opinion. To me, it's clearly trying to recapture that same style of storytelling from the '60s, just through a modern lens. Because of that, an episode like this doesn't feel out of place at all.
Hell, I remember throughout the 2000s, people were often complaining about Star Trek being so bland and wishing it would do memorable stuff like Farscape or Buffy. Now we have Star Trek doing things both shows have done and we have fans (possibly even the same fans) complaining about it being "too much like Buffy/Farscape."Feels like Farscape is high praise in my book.
Back in the day, FS often made Berman-era Trek feel rather stuffy and staid by comparison.
Indeed, as far back as the nineties, I was occasionally arguing that Trek needed to loosen up a bit. And I love that the new shows and movies have remembered that Trek is supposed to be fun as well as high-minded and "cerebral."
Just to get on my hobby horse, for a moment.
I disagree. I've been reading in recent years Trek novels which have featured Pike written throughout the 80s, 90s and really anything predating the introduction of Anson Mount's Pike on Disco S2. And while those novels obviously based their depiction of Pike on Jeffrey Hunter, I find I can imagine Anson Mount in the role and it totally fits, outside the occasional reference to Pike's dark hair.He just isn't the captain Hunter made him out to be in The Cage.
Picard featured Blue Skies sung by Bing Crosby from 1946, the Freischswimmer cover of California Dreaming from 2015, I Don't Want to Set the World on Fire by The Ink Spots from 1941. None of those songs are from the 1980s.Thats another thing its always 1980s music. STP did the same thing. Why not 1950s or 60s?
You're thinking of We Trying to Stay Alive by Wyclef Jean, which was actually released in 1997.I think STD had a disco song once.
As the behind the scenes photos from last week revealed, the shuttle is actually a mock up, meaning they have built the interior into a life sized model of the exterior, so in this case literally do have interior dimensions fitting exterior dimensions exactly as they should.Looked way bigger in the inside.
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