What do you mean by creepy?
Creepy. Disturbing.
Spock is the one character that really trips up this all is supposed to be the same narrative. I understand wanting to maybe loosen him up a bit, but they’ve went way overboard with it.
You mean him getting all horned up because of the cowgirl outfit?
I'm not sure if creepy would be my word of choice, awkward certainly, especially for poor Scotty.
Not that I can't say I wouldn't have happily let Captain Pike drag me to his quarters in his cowboy get up. So I can extrapolate how Spock feels even if he and La'an had a lack of decorum about it.
Peck's Spock is one of the best aspects of SNW. Deft and observant both in concept and execution.
They've restored the character's potential for future storytelling, although given the entropic disarray of Trek I'm dubious that it will ever be well-utilized after this series ends.
They've restored the character's potential for future storytelling, although given the entropic disarray of Trek I'm dubious that it will ever be well-utilized after this series ends.
I know. The real belt's mass of today is also about 4% of the Moon's mass, so the initial mass from Dol'drm is a multiple thereof.
It was always my interpretation – and I could have sworn the film confirms it at one point – that h. whales themselves (from some distant colony) had built and sent the probe from ST IV. The whales on Earth obviously would have chosen a simple life Ba'ku style, but the film leaves it open.
Voyager-A has a h. whale working in Cetacean Ops; it would be weird to employ someone from a non-spacefaring society.
No, most overpowered shit is from the Berman era.
I think you need to rewatch a lot of the Berman era as 24th century ships (at least until the Dominion War in DS9) were nearly always shown (even in the 1st Borg encounter as had Picard not stopped, he coukd have destroyed that Borg Cube before they had analyzed the 1701.-D's Phaser fire) as vastly superior to alien craft in technology and firepower.
Spock now has a fetish for cowboy cosplay.
"You couldn't chew some tobacco, and can I see your saddle sores?"
Or...
"I am so in love with Jim Kirk who is busy, so Spock will do, who seems to be working his way through the entire female cast."
I'm pretty sure there's no such suggestion in the film.
It might have been in McIntyre's novelization.
It’s not.
See, I don't think so. Though we often point out how emotional Spock was in The Cage as setting the precedent for his behavior in SNW, I'm going to go a bit further and bring up the early first season of TOS, where even though it was decided at this point for Spock to be the one who would look at things with a detached logical and calculating perspective, even in those episodes he was not as stoic and unemotional as he would become that pop culture identifies him and the Vulcans in general as being. While he was still the most reserved character in the cast, he did still have some emotional expression in those episodes, be it little things like smirking as he played the lute and Uhura sang, or him openly showing irritation when he told McCoy to learn the difference between empiricism and stubbornness. Now, yes, like The Cage this was the by-product of it being early days, things weren't really established and developed and in this case, Nimoy was still crafting the character in his performance. But, also like with The Cage when you take it in context with the full realized character we've come to know and love over the decades it does open new avenues and perspectives to which to look at the character, which I for one find interesting or dare I say, fascinating.
They're just humpback whales. Ocean-dwelling humpback whales. No advanced technology. No spacefaring capability.
The civilization that sent the Whale Probe simply made a sentient connection with them long ago and this was a device dispatched to check up on them.
The civilization that sent the Whale Probe simply made a sentient connection with them long ago and this was a device dispatched to check up on them.
Peck's Spock is a partial, plausible answer to the whole "What the fuck is Spock doing in Starfleet, anyway?" question that TOS never directly addressed.
I mean, the guy had a fiance and a "in" to the Science Academy, and he regarded human beings with skepticism and some dismay. Starfleet, in TOS, is full of human beings and not a whole lot of anybody else.
There was this stock "Space is a better place to do science" handwaving, but that was a weak and impersonal assignment of motive.
STD did a clever little continuity thing - Spock got passed over for the Academy because Sarek favored the adopted kid - so that detail was addressed.
SNW digs into who Spock was in his youth in a satisfying and direct way. My own bias has always been that Spock was too human and emotional to be happy on Vulcan when he was young - remember all that bullying, he stood out like a sore thumb - and escaped into an environment where the ignorant locals had no context to judge him as anything other than Vulcan.
My youngest had a lovely, naive reaction to her first weeks away at college - "How did I get assigned to the dorm with ALL the cool people?" By the time of her second semester, she was learning to cope with the downsides of some of the social behaviors she was initially enthusiastic about (like switching room assignments to get away from the roommate who liked to drunkenly stumble in with guys at one or two AM in the middle of the week).
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Yeah, in TOS. the only hint of 'why' is an exchange between Kirk and Amanda about Spock in TOS S2 Journey To Babel:
Implying that Spock somehow felt better treated at a Starfleet facility on Vulcan.
I've always kinda figured that's why Kirstie Alley's Saavik ended up in Starfleet as well.
Even without the (deleted) half-Romulan backstory, she came off as bit more more emotional than the average Vulcan, so she might not have fit in all that well among other Vulcans.
Even without the (deleted) half-Romulan backstory, she came off as bit more more emotional than the average Vulcan, so she might not have fit in all that well among other Vulcans.
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