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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x07 – “Ko‘Zeine”

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So... There are handheld devices that can create portals between planets?

Wow... Where were those things during the 120 years of galaxy wide darkness...
I have to admit this draws attention to yet another question about the Burn.

Whenever people gripe about the interstellar beaming in the Kelvin movies I point out that by the end of Voyager they'd established loads of ways of doing this, and while some of them are risky, it would be a little weird if they didn't keep advancing and using those. (Though the beaming in the Abrams movies seemed to have a subtext of being too dangerous to do under normal circumstances too IMO, even if it wasn't stated explicitly.)

So with subspace transporters ("Bloodlines"), interstellar Dominion transporters ("The Jem'Hadar", "Covenant"), spatial trajectors ("Prime Factors"*, "The Impossible Box"), Iconian gateways ("Contagion", "To the Death"), transwarp beaming (the movies), time travel tech that let you change physical locations as well ("Relativity", "Shockwave", "Azati Prime", etc.), and probably others I'm forgetting in addition to this episode, it feels like there should still have been loads of interstellar transport.

Maybe it wouldn't have been as practical for moving large quantities of resources between systems, but it's something.

Not a gripe about this episode at least; if anything, it means I barely blinked when they added another way of doing the same thing.


* Originally required a very specific type of planet, though this may have been retconned.
 
We know 1x05 starts 89 days after 1x01 and ends 96 days after, and we know 1x07 takes place a month after 1x06, do we know how long there is between 1x05 and 1x06.

1x01 - Day 1
1x02 - Day 2 (but hints at minor jump early in the episode between room assignments and then Caleb/Darem objecting to theirs)
1x03 - Day 22 (Derem states its been 3 weeks since the start of 1x02) and episode takes place over avout 4 days
1x04 - Day 29+ (its 3 days into the deep space mission)
1x05 - Day 89 to 96 (Sams narration says 96 days, but then flashes back a week)
1x06 - X
1x07 - Day X + 32 (its been a month since Caleb spoke to Terima, and Ocam told him she was out of the coma, so 32 days post 1x06)

There are a few clues to help you out.
Episode Three - Vitus Reflux is given a stardate of 868858.7 = 10-Nov-3191
Right now the producers are being vague about when the show take place, only in the "3190s"; however, it must be after Discovery and internal evidence points to about 3195 for the show's first season.
So, if you adjust 10-Nov-3191 to 10-Nov-3195, then you can work it out from there.

1x01 - Day 1
1x02 - Day 2 = 10-Oct-3195 (Three weeks before 1x03)
1x03 - Stardate 868858.7 (10-Nov-3195)
1x04 - Stardate 868943.8 (Dec 8th-11th, 3195)
1x05 - Day 89-96 = Jan 7th-14th, 3196
1x06 - Day X
1x07 - Day X + 32

Depending upon where Episode 6 lands - Episodes 6 and 7 probably take place in late January 3196 to early February 3196.

Hope that helps.
 
Maybe exploring space on the back of a smol slug is not the same as cruising around on the Enterprise.
And the slugs seem to be restricted by both physical barriers and lines of sight, so fairly limited in aspect.
Didn't have to be the slugs, there are a bunch of space-dwelling organisms that could have been used.


So with subspace transporters ("Bloodlines"), interstellar Dominion transporters ("The Jem'Hadar", "Covenant"), spatial trajectors ("Prime Factors"*, "The Impossible Box"), Iconian gateways ("Contagion", "To the Death"), transwarp beaming (the movies), time travel tech that let you change physical locations as well ("Relativity", "Shockwave", "Azati Prime", etc.), and probably others I'm forgetting in addition to this episode, it feels like there should still have been loads of interstellar transport.

Maybe it wouldn't have been as practical for moving large quantities of resources between systems, but it's something.

Not a gripe about this episode at least; if anything, it means I barely blinked when they added another way of doing the same thing.
What's funny is the Federation is still using something like that, cause they had Burnham beaming to meet with Daniels in the white room from anywhere in the galaxy.

But really it's an inherent problem around the Burn that's not going to go away and why the whole premise is kind of a noose around any series set after it.
 
Warp capable organisms have been a thing since the TNG era.
They have never been as small as that slug in the cannister.

They were usually fairly large creatures, comparable to StarShip Dimensions & Masses.

Now the real question is why nobody started using those sorts of creatures as draft animals after the Burn.
Because we have ships that can go FTL, even with some risk.

It's still better than enslaving animals to ferry us around.

What, you want the equivalent of a Warp Capable Space Horse now to drag your STL ship around?
 
Ask your doctor about Ko'Zeine.

In rare cases, some people may experience side effects while watching Ko'Zeine. If you experience euphoria, anger, confusion, befuddlement, giddiness, malaise, or slight itchiness of the earlobes, discontinue Ko'Zeine immediately and post on the internet.

It's time to start finishing your season. Ask your doctor if Ko'Zeine is right for you.
Ko'Zeine does sound like one of those TV advertised drugs doesn't it.
 
They have never been as small as that slug in the cannister.

They were usually fairly large creatures, comparable to StarShip Dimensions & Masses.
Actually about half of such species were somewhere between the size of cows and elephants.

Hell, the Founders could turn into such creatures and they were the size of a bucket.

Because we have ships that can go FTL, even with some risk.

It's still better than enslaving animals to ferry us around.

What, you want the equivalent of a Warp Capable Space Horse now to drag your STL ship around?
That the Federation didn't have the Dilithium needed to drive the ships to keep things from falling apart is canon.

As to "enslaving", putting aside that old Vulcan axiom, the Federation had access to both Telepaths and Empaths, they were perfectly capable of forming beneficial partnerships with any such creatures.

And yes, if the choice is between hundreds of billions dying and riding to the rescue in a Space Horse drawn Starship, I would absolutely pick the second.
 
For the map people
 
I am starting to wonder. Their first semester is over.
When will Caleb commit to a department branch?
And what do you think it’s going to be?
Despite or maybe because he is such a troublemaker and really good with all those hacking skills, and because he is super buff, I think he would thrive in Security.
I do not see him in command really.
 
Jay-Den couldn't do public speaking a few episodes ago, now he's belting out a best man speech like it's no biggie.

Decent episode, nothing big or major but fun.

Warp slugs are a thing now.
 
Jay-Den couldn't do public speaking a few episodes ago, now he's belting out a best man speech like it's no biggie.

Decent episode, nothing big or major but fun.

Warp slugs are a thing now.
He did also very confidently deliver a public speech that the klingon issue should be debated in the public speech episode before he got over his fear of public speaking :shrug:
 
It can be to do with environment, my job involves talking to people almost constantly but I would absolutely hate to be put on a podium and "perform" for people. In Jay-Dens case, you've got classroom versus podium - and even in the former you could tell there was a struggle for him.
 
Good point there, but then I would still give it as an example that he can do it well to motivate him, and while it might not translate 100% or even 50% it can still be a "hey we have seen you being good at it", currently it can be written that way "by accident"
 
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