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Spoilers Star Trek: Starfleet Academy 1x07 – “Ko‘Zeine”

Rate the episode...

  • 10 - Excellent!

    Votes: 5 4.8%
  • 9

    Votes: 2 1.9%
  • 8

    Votes: 15 14.4%
  • 7

    Votes: 32 30.8%
  • 6

    Votes: 18 17.3%
  • 5

    Votes: 8 7.7%
  • 4

    Votes: 9 8.7%
  • 3

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • 2

    Votes: 6 5.8%
  • 1 - Terrible.

    Votes: 6 5.8%

  • Total voters
    104
Which is OK in a 20+ episode season, with only 10 episodes they cannot really afford to put on the brakes, imo.


They kinda destroyed the character imo. Falsifying records is a crime that can land one behind bars for years. Furthermore, she knew that Caleb was someone who had spent a good portion of his life in prison and was trying to get his life in order and she manipulates him into helping her with her own crime, which could have easily destroyed everything he worked for. A terrible person actually. She compromised Ake as well, since not reporting her would be a career ending decision for her as well.
Technically she didn't falsify any records because they stopped her before she could do it. Her crime was breaking back into the Academy and onto the bridge.

I assume Caleb just gets "Dean's favourite" protection as well.
 
Technically she didn't falsify any records because they stopped her before she could do it. Her crime was breaking back into the Academy and onto the bridge.

I assume Caleb just gets "Dean's favourite" protection as well.

Attempting to commit a crime is also punishable, depending on the offense and the jurisdiction, the sentence can be the same as a successful conclusion.

The line is often drawn between preparing for a crime ( one wants to give the potential criminal an exit strategy) and attempting it.
 
Attempting to commit a crime is also punishable, depending on the offense and the jurisdiction, the sentence can be the same as a successful conclusion.

The line is often drawn between preparing for a crime ( one wants to give the potential criminal an exit strategy) and attempting it.
Oh she was definitely putting them at risk, but I suppose you could say that she was counting on Caleb being Ake's golden child to protect them. Or more likely she wasn't really thinking of the consequences at all.

But also, main character plot armor. lol

She said she falsified her original application.
Yeah, but I assuming lying on the equivalent of her resume is the lesser crime than hacking into a computer and deleting official records.
Although I'm not sure what her plan was going to be after she deleted the references unless she planned on having someone pretend to be her new references.
 
Yeah, this one in particular. lol


Salvaging the Mizayaki, even as a controlled test, seems like a lot for a bunch of first semester students even if these are the most gifted children in the galaxy. Also I'm not sure how gym class, debate class, physics class, and a class on Sisko is meant to help prepare for that test. lol
I made the same point in the 1.6 thread. There's also talking plants class, mucus husbandry class, ancient mythology class, and music class too.

On to this one. I cast a 7 on it before I read the thread or saw the other votes, so this week I maintain my record of my votes perfectly lining up with the rest of you all. I am among my people!

I wanted to see a Klingon in a shitty shirt, wandering the bars in San Antoni, also.

EDITS:

I don't quite know what the point was of making the Khionians fishy blue. That scene on the hull could have simply been achieved just as well without it - or they could have just used Sam. If they don't refer to this again in the seson, or in the series at all, then what was the point.

This will be the first episode that no reviewer will have seen screeners for - for some it will be the first new content they have seen for 7 or 8 weeks. It will be interesting to see how they feel on this.

Trek Culture has an interesting split between Tom and Ellie on the more YA content vs. the Starshippy stuff. That should be interesting to see on this one. Meanwhile Sean's happy with all of it to avoid any arguments and allow him more time to concentrate on his OnlyFans.

EDIT AGAIN. Had the WTF Just Happened on in the car as just audio. Tom is basically James May.
 
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I Meanwhile Sean's happy with all of it to avoid any arguments and allow him more time to concentrate on his OnlyFans.

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To be fair, I forward through most of the TC stuff to Cetacean Observations.
 
I can’t believe Tig grassed on them. She’s supposed to be the “cool” teacher. :)
 
I liked it! Thought it was a good, quiet character episode... I do however start to doubt the use of the AR-wall, and if it is doing the right thing creatively... While the VR-wall is very useful and practical, I don't think Trek is making a great use of it lately... Lots of sets are now circular and pretty contained, which makes it very obvious when they're using the AR-wall... I think the effects and enviroments in DSC's first three seasons (when they didn't have the AR-wall yet) were just more convincing and looked better... It may be a minor thing, but I hope that Trek in general will be more ambitious visually in the future...
 
I liked it! Thought it was a good, quiet character episode... I do however start to doubt the use of the AR-wall, and if it is doing the right thing creatively... While the VR-wall is very useful and practical, I don't think Trek is making a great use of it lately... Lots of sets are now circular and pretty contained, which makes it very obvious when they're using the AR-wall... I think the effects and enviroments in DSC's first three seasons (when they didn't have the AR-wall yet) were just more convincing and looked better... It may be a minor thing, but I hope that Trek in general will be more ambitious visually in the future...
I think part of it is that everyone is just used to that look now so it doesn’t really look impressive unless they spend the time to basically replicate real life and make it indistinguishable.

Like it looks fake and doesn’t even have the feeling of being real as styrofoam props on a sound stage.
 
The episode os an easy 7 this week.

All of the material was executed in a standard, expected way, and was a bit disappointed.

There were bits I enjoyed at least.
 
Salvaging the Mizayaki, even as a controlled test, seems like a lot for a bunch of first semester students even if these are the most gifted children in the galaxy. Also I'm not sure how gym class, debate class, physics class, and a class on Sisko is meant to help prepare for that test. lol
That test seems to be more of a "Throw them in the Deep End of the Pool and see how they fair" situation.

Then they'll evaluate how the students prepare for a absolute worst case scenario.
 
8/10. Some nice worldbuilding. Good character interactions. The end made me smile. Nice slower episode after last week.

Totally agree - a breather to dive deeper into these characters.

Overall, I'm really loving this show, its characters, its earnest, aspirational take on Trek, and grounding this all in a phase of life - university and those deeply significant years of many people's lives. I am deeply sad it's such a short season, and deeply sad how much hate there is for it, but the show's been fantastic mostly.
 
Which is OK in a 20+ episode season, with only 10 episodes they cannot really afford to put on the brakes, imo.


They kinda destroyed the character imo. Falsifying records is a crime that can land one behind bars for years. Furthermore, she knew that Caleb was someone who had spent a good portion of his life in prison and was trying to get his life in order and she manipulates him into helping her with her own crime, which could have easily destroyed everything he worked for. A terrible person actually. She compromised Ake as well, since not reporting her would be a career ending decision for her as well.

I'm not happy with it but its so ridiculous a "crime" that its hard to take seriously. Falsifying letters of recommendation by removing....that she really is afraid of failure.

But also, who writes that on a letter of recommendation?
 
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A step down from last week, but not a bad episode. Felt like they were trying to channel Family after Best of Both Worlds, with a lower stakes character episode, but reminded me more of ENT's Home. If there's any central flaw here running across the show, it's the modern short season structure, as this is motioning towards deep friendships having formed between characters - and deep affection having formed for the characters - when we've just had six hours with them.

I'll start with what I like less this week, which is Darem and Jay-Den subsection with the abortive wedding. This doesn't work for a few reasons. One, the series hasn't done the legwork of making them actually seem like friends. First Darem bullies Jay-Den, then he comes onto him weirdly, and then he gets really jealous of Kyle for several episodes. Nowhere is a bond really implied. Second is the limitations of the budget and the Volume. Look, I get they can't actually do the underwater scenes with all of them in fish makeup, but at no time am I convinced this is a planetary-scale wedding. As an aside, this seems to imply Khionia is an absolute monarchy of some sort? Hard to believe that comports with Federation law, but I guess he could be from a non-member world.

The biggest issue, though is due to the nature of TV and casting, we 100% know there is no question Darem will be leaving the show, which exposes the artificiality of the drama from the start. Trek has tried this in the past, like in T'Pol's abortive wedding, or when Worf had the spinal injury and wanted assisted suicide. Obviously, all drama is false drama, but in cases where it's not high-octane action or suspense, the question is never will it happen, but how will it stop from happening. So we're left waiting the whole episode for Darem to wise up.

That said, this section isn't without some promise. Some of the scripting between Jay-Den and Darem is well done, even if the premise of the plot is a bit ridiculous. Their "friendship" is unearned, but damned if Jay-Den didn't almost sell me on it with his little best man speech at the end.

Shifting to the great stuff though, there's Caleb and Genesis doing their own rendition of The Leftovers. No notes, this is fantastic light character drama. Caleb doesn't take any surprising turns here, but the revelations that Genesis is not the perfect cadet she lets on, but is covering deep insecurity, is great, adding a flaw to what had been a boring character. The episode also flips expectations, with Caleb being the more cautious one while Genesis gets bolder and wants to break more and more rules. Most importantly, the two have an easy and natural rapport - a palpable chemistry the script itself seems aware of (and the characters, eventually). Caleb is way more interesting paired with her than with Tarima, which is just two "hot" people onscreen together.

I can say, with zero sarcasm, I ship these two crazy kids. They actually seem like they're trying to make one another into better people. I'm guessing it won't go anywhere, but it doesn't need to. The dynamic itself is good enough.

Adding these two parts together, I think you get a just above average episode. Not everyone can be a banger, of course.
 
We know 1x05 starts 89 days after 1x01 and ends 96 days after, and we know 1x07 takes place a month after 1x06, do we know how long there is between 1x05 and 1x06.

1x01 - Day 1
1x02 - Day 2 (but hints at minor jump early in the episode between room assignments and then Caleb/Darem objecting to theirs)
1x03 - Day 22 (Derem states its been 3 weeks since the start of 1x02) and episode takes place over avout 4 days
1x04 - Day 29+ (its 3 days into the deep space mission)
1x05 - Day 89 to 96 (Sams narration says 96 days, but then flashes back a week)
1x06 - X
1x07 - Day X + 32 (its been a month since Caleb spoke to Terima, and Ocam told him she was out of the coma, so 32 days post 1x06)
 
If there's any central flaw here running across the show, it's the modern short season structure, as this is motioning towards deep friendships having formed between characters - and deep affection having formed for the characters - when we've just had six hours with them.
I agree, but at least SFA is trying to show the audience how much time has passed between episodes. For us, it’s six hours like you said, but for them, it’s been seven months. That’s plenty of time to form deep friendships. Still, I agree it’s a shame we only get 10-episode seasons these days. As viewers, we just don’t have enough time for the slower character development we were used to with ’90s Trek.
 
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