Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds 2x01 - "The Broken Circle"

[TerryTrek]

Depends on their tastes and expectations. If they were expecting an exciting SF adventure with lots of humor and action and bit of romance, they may have had a good time.

(You didn't need to be a dedicated fan to pick up on the whole Spock/Chapel dynamic.)

Lets see how the streaming numbers play out. Then we'll know.

 

[fireproof78]

 

[NCC-73515]

Trek does a very serviceable job but where it fails I don't lose any sleep.

That's exactly how I see it. A lot of the tech is explained really well. If there's an easily avoidable mistake, like confusing ultraviolet and infrared, I just think they could've so easily fixed that, but of course time pressure will lead to overlooked minor errors that many people won't notice anyway.

No offense but that's a massive distortion of how Trek has tried to balance the storytelling needs of entertainment with something that sounds plausible enough to be an extrapolation of the current day understanding of science.

If what you said really was true, we'd still be calling their warp crystals lithium crystals (like they did in early scripts of TOS before writers changed things) with no regard to the fact that lithium is a real element.

Li2 exists as a gas - my prof even referenced Trek in the chemistry lecture back then IIRC

I could see the casuals wondering wtf they are watching and tune out.

That applies to a lot of Trek though
I was watching INS with a friend when his dad walked in, watched Picard, Worf, and Data sing and then almost crash, said "what the hell is that BS" and walked out again

 

[fireproof78]

I was watching INS with a friend when his dad walked in, watched Picard, Worf, and Data sing and then almost crash, said "what the hell is that BS" and walked out again

Sounds about right.

 

[Noname Given]

Since they have synthetic alcohol, maybe they have synthetic weed or tobacco.

Nothing synthetic in the 23rd century (Data even mentioned Scotty was unaware of 'Synthohol' in TNG S6 Relics.)

 

[StarMan]

What's the point of synthetic alcohol?

Was synthohol a boozy & blurry time minus the hangover, or did it just replicate the taste and was absent any of the intoxicating effects?

Hard to believe it'd be the latter.

 

[drt]

Was synthohol a boozy & blurry time minus the hangover, or did it just replicate the taste and was absent any of the intoxicating effects?

Hard to believe it'd be the latter.

I think it was supposed to give you a bit of a buzz, but the effects could easily be dismissed if there was an emergency. I don't think you could actually get drunk or think it's a good idea to call your ex-girlfriend at 2am if drinking it to excess.

 

[NCC-73515]

Seven had coordination, speech, and balance problems with her first synthehol. I guess it has a similar, but not permanently damaging effect on the brain, and probably doesn't harm the liver, etc.

 

[T'Bonz]

After reading through today's offerings, just a mod reminder - you can disagree WITHOUT getting personal. Please try harder to do so. Some of you were skating right up to the edge of warnings.

It's a lot nicer for everyone to read in here without having to read pissing matches. So let's not do that, OK?

 

[drt]

Seven had coordination, speech, and balance problems with her first synthehol. I guess it has a similar, but not permanently damaging effect on the brain, and probably doesn't harm the liver, etc.

I think there was something about her Borg physiology that caused it to act more like actual alcohol, maybe missing the enzyme that breaks it down or something, I can't remember.

 

[AntonyF]

An observationaly-challenged opinion. A narrow-minded opinion. A boring opinion.

It's all of those.

That's a lot of words to say "I'm a gatekeeper."

 

[Tuskin38]

Was synthohol a boozy & blurry time minus the hangover, or did it just replicate the taste and was absent any of the intoxicating effects?

Hard to believe it'd be the latter.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Synthehol

 

[jackoverfull]

I think there was something about her Borg physiology that caused it to act more like actual alcohol, maybe missing the enzyme that breaks it down or something, I can't remember.

definitely: her body is deeply modified inside (we can even see that she’s missing like a third of her brain!) and whatever handles sintahol obviously doesn’t work as well as in other humans.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Episode 1 is up on YT.

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[Mr. Laser Beam]

I think it was supposed to give you a bit of a buzz, but the effects could easily be dismissed if there was an emergency. I don't think you could actually get drunk or think it's a good idea to call your ex-girlfriend at 2am if drinking it to excess.

In the novelverse, synthehol was invented by the Ferengi so they could get customers drunk off their ass on REAL alcohol while they themselves only drank the synthetic version.

Which, you gotta admit, is a very Ferengi thing for them to do.

I think there was something about her Borg physiology that caused it to act more like actual alcohol, maybe missing the enzyme that breaks it down or something, I can't remember.

Or maybe Seven just can't hold her liquor.

I used to be like that. I would get that wasted after only like one or two drinks. I wasn't used to it (as I'm sure Seven wasn't).

 

[TerryTrek]

We were talking about how the episode tracks with casuals and new viewers. The numbers and metrics are relevant information to that.

To quote your favorite divisive series.. "Context is for kings"

 

[Nerys Myk]

“Casuals”. Is that the new mundanes?

 

[fireproof78]

We were talking about how the episode tracks with casuals and new viewers. The numbers and metrics are relevant information to that.

To quote your favorite divisive series.. "Context is for kings"

Not really. It's data points that are largely irrelevant to my daily life. And will no doubt be used to justify some point about not resonating with "casuals".

 

[Gilora]

Sorry, bones don't get denser in 10 seconds. This is physiologically impossible. Now she's the Incredible Hulk huh? I'd rather see her body snatch a male body and use it than this silliness. Women are not men. Censor me, but it's still true.

A lot of things that happen in Star Trek don't happen (yet) in real life.

And why this? "Women are not men." That has nothing to do with what I said or this fictional world that we're both presumably fans of.

 

[Commander Troi]

Well *I* had fun watching the episode. Yes, the fight scenes with Chapel and M'Benga were a little too long, but I was good with them. Loved the Raiders homage with La'an. Loved Spock with Klingons and then hungover. I can't wait for tonight!