I see none. Swear words stand out, whether bastard, damn, bitch, or fuck. Trek has just put them in as they could.Goes back to the difference between ‘Klingon Bastards’ and ‘Fucking Cool’ but fundamentally, it’s about context.
I see none. Swear words stand out, whether bastard, damn, bitch, or fuck. Trek has just put them in as they could.Goes back to the difference between ‘Klingon Bastards’ and ‘Fucking Cool’ but fundamentally, it’s about context.
Problem is, we've repeatedly seen in Trek that 18-22 is the norm for Academy years after high school going by the canonical ages of practically all the characters. Kelvin Pike's reaction to Kelvin Ensign Chekov's age of 17 indicates that this youthful age is not the norm. Janeway's age is basically calulated from when she played tennis in high school "nineteen years ago, etc..Present-day schools are trying to accelerate kids' educations. They take calculus and advanced mathematics as early as 10th grade. Some middle schools offer "highly gifted" programs that are incredibly advanced. Maybe it's possible that by the 24th century, the educational landscape won't look quite like it does today...
I am 100% agreed that the context of certain words/phrases/visuals does need taking into consideration - for example I think "Klingon bastards" is far removed from "Fucking cool" because it was a film rather than TV and the two mediums do attract different approaches.There has long been, in some places at any rate, a sensible sliding scale on whether a thing in a show or film is suitable in context tbh. This was also the era of NYPD Blue. (A much more adult show, but still pushing boundaries) Or Schindlers List (though somehow Spielberg always gets lower ratings, without needing justification in context — look at Jurassic Park) which are all about *something*.
Goes back to the difference between ‘Klingon Bastards’ and ‘Fucking Cool’ but fundamentally, it’s about context.
Personally, in series one, it would have been more fun to get a new Rhihansu naughty word in all the Game Of Thrones bait.
Or maybe education changed from the 23rd to the 24th century and the expectation was to know how you would benefit humanity by 17.Kirk Prime entered at 17 but he was probably in the minority for human Cadets.
Probably not in Kurtzman Trek. No.I am not trying to say it was done flippantly - it is exceptionally well done and hits hard - but the use of the word on a show like that would not be allowed these days and for good reason considering the rise in racial hatred in society
I am 100% agreed that the context of certain words/phrases/visuals does need taking into consideration - for example I think "Klingon bastards" is far removed from "Fucking cool" because it was a film rather than TV and the two mediums do attract different approaches.
DS9 was shown on BBC2 at 6pm back in the 90s and so for that word to be dropped at a time when many children would be watching TV with no forewarning or attempt to explain the historical implications (UK had nowhere near the Civil Rights Movement of the US and the culture was much more separate from the US' back then so context is lost) would mean, for me, I'd have thought it appropriate to cut the scene if you aren't going to explain why it is important.
No one has said it’s normal for a 17 year old to be a graduate of a four year university.Problem is, we've repeatedly seen in Trek that 18-22 is the norm for Academy years after high school going by the canonical ages of practically all the characters. Kelvin Pike's reaction to Kelvin Ensign Chekov's age of 17 indicates that this youthful age is not the norm. Janeway's age is basically calulated from when she played tennis in high school "nineteen years ago, etc..
Depends on what part of the year you were born in. If school starts in September everyone born before September is 18, but those born in September and afterwards are 17. Though I have heard of schools that won’t allow kids born later in the year to start school with their “cohorts”. Had a girl friend was born in December of the same year I was. She graduated in the class after mine.Kirk Prime entered at 17 but he was probably in the minority for human Cadets.
I recently hired someone who is 22 years old and has their Master's Degree.This is true. I graduated high school at 17 and thus could have started college while still 17.
In the UK, whilst our culture is and was very different to that the US has to deal with the fall out from, we also studied the American Civil Rights movement and key events in school. Both Primary and Secondary.
Whilst it isn’t one-for-one relevant (no segregation, Plymouth Rock landing on someone was an unfortunate seaside holiday incident involved boiled sugar goods, and fundamentally Windrush and the Commonwealth being *our* history, which has more in common with an Italian, Polish, or Irish American in the US than what we saw in the nastier side of mid century America — though we did manage to import all the bad somehow through cultural osmosis) the fundamentals of that episode, and the strength and importance of the story mean I would not have cut it at all.
This was also the era in which Star Trek would often be followed by ‘The Real McCoy’ after all, which dealt with race and race relations in an entirely different way, including comment on problems in the US.
(‘You know when you’ve been LAPDed’ and ‘blue contacts Bill Clinton’ being stand out things that stick in my memory of the era)
How do we know he didn't somehow get it during WW3 before 2063?Cochrane may have been a wunderkind if he already had a Doctorate by the time of World War III in 2053.
With a modified constitutional amendment proposed to allow him to become the youngest Federation president.If this were Star Wars, Jack Crusher would've been the elected head of state of an entire planet by 14 years old and currently be serving his first term as a member of the Federation Council representing an entire sector at 21.
Who? Picard would've dropped the title character for a few episodes entirely while exploring the completely unrelated adventures of Din Djarin and Grogu.And a cameo by Boba Fett.
Hey. We can't have interesting characters here!And a cameo by Boba Fett.
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