How to resolve 6 Voyager Inconsistencies in 85 seconds

[WarpTenLizard]

"Unimatrix Zero:"
The Doctor: "You've had your first romantic dream, Seven!"
Seven: "This did not feel like any dream I've had before."

"Fury"
Janeway: "You know Tuvok, I remember you first "99th birthday," twelve years ago..."

"Before and After"
Kes: "Captain, in a few months you're going to find a wormhole that will seem to take Voyager past Borg space, but you mustn't use it! That wormhole leads right into the heart of Krenim space..."

 

[Oddish]

Nicely done.

 

[Farscape One]

Impressive.

 

[Oddish]

Another issue popped up in "How would you change the show", so let's go at it.

Any episode before "Living Witness", a senior staff meeting.

JANEWAY: "Lieutenant Torres. I understand you and Ensign Kim have been working on a unique project."

TORRES: "Yes, Captain. As you know, having only the one copy of the Doctor has long been a concern for us. We think we may have found a way to create a backup for him."

PARIS: "I thought the Doctor's program couldn't be backed up."

TORRES: "Well, we knew that it had to be possible to replicate his program, because Dr. Zimmerman made multiple copies for the fleet. He obviously didn't program them all individually."

KIM: "We found some details of the duplication process in Voyager's archived files. They were sketchy, but they've given us a starting point."

EMH: "I hope you're not planning on having multiple copies of me running around sickbay."

TORRES: "Nothing like that, Doctor. We're not sure the holo-emitters in Sickbay could even handle running two EMH's at once. This would just be an archived copy, to be used only if you were lost somehow."

EMH: "Oh. I guess that would be all right."

JANEWAY: "Nice work, both of you. Keep me apprised of your progress."

 

[Timewalker]

Another issue popped up in "How would you change the show", so let's go at it.

Any episode before "Living Witness", a senior staff meeting.

JANEWAY: "Lieutenant Torres. I understand you and Ensign Kim have been working on a unique project."

TORRES: "Yes, Captain. As you know, having only the one copy of the Doctor has long been a concern for us. We think we may have found a way to create a backup for him."

PARIS: "I thought the Doctor's program couldn't be backed up."

TORRES: "Well, we knew that it had to be possible to replicate his program, because Dr. Zimmerman made multiple copies for the fleet. He obviously didn't program them all individually."

KIM: "We found some details of the duplication process in Voyager's archived files. They were sketchy, but they've given us a starting point."

EMH: "I hope you're not planning on having multiple copies of me running around sickbay."

TORRES: "Nothing like that, Doctor. We're not sure the holo-emitters in Sickbay could even handle running two EMH's at once. This would just be an archived copy, to be used only if you were lost somehow."

EMH: "Oh. I guess that would be all right."

JANEWAY: "Nice work, both of you. Keep me apprised of your progress."

He'd want to be sure all the extra subroutines were included, though.

 

[Oddish]

Yes. Only caveat would be that the backup, being stored, would not continue to evolve. If you backed up the EMH on Stardate 55452.7, then had to activate your backup on Stardate 57641.8, you'd be getting the EMH as of Stardate 55452.7, so everything the EMH learned/became after that time would be lost.

 

[Farscape One]

Good fix for "LIVING WITNESS". Simple, effective. And it would prevent certain people from not being able to enjoy the episode, if we are to believe that.

 

[Oddish]

And I think I got the characters right. Tried to mentalize them in the actors' voices, and it "sounded" about right. I can imagine Torres and her mile a minute technobabble (Ms. Dawson was good at that), Paris's insouciant skepticism, and the EMH's slightly neurotic concern at getting the Will/Tom Riker treatment.

 

[Timewalker]

And I think I got the characters right. Tried to mentalize them in the actors' voices, and it "sounded" about right. I can imagine Torres and her mile a minute technobabble (Ms. Dawson was good at that), Paris's insouciant skepticism, and the EMH's slightly neurotic concern at getting the Will/Tom Riker treatment.

You did a very good job. That could have been real episode dialogue.

 

[at Quark's]

EMH: "I hope you're not planning on having multiple copies of me running around sickbay."

Janeway: Why is that, Doctor? Surely such a humble, unassuming, and accommodating amicable person like you, with great bedside manners to boot, would get on famously with a few copies of himself? <starts snickering>

 

[Oddish]

Or delete the snicker and just cut to Sickbay, where EMH and EMH' are having a knock-down drag-out shouting match.

After that, the backup gets stored away, and is lost shortly after, initiating the events of "Living Witness". And to give "Latent Image" some teeth, they realize that the process can't be repeated without total EMH decompilation.

That's the great thing about Trek, if you know enough ways to glibly combine technobabble words like antiproton, cascade, harmonic, antimatter, regulator, matrix, and manifold, you can explain pretty much anything.

 

[TommyR01D]

I'm actually doing the same with the inconsistencies and contradictions in all the Trek shows and it's actually funny to try to come up with and explanation to all those inconsistencies.

However, Voyager had more inconsistencies and contradictions than the other shows.

When I did my Bad Science series in 2019, Voyager was the obvious starting point. It's at the point of being enjoyably bad, where the flaws are sufficient to generate decades of derision...

However, i'm excluding Discovery from my nitpicking and corrections because I can't stand that series. I have also excluded Enterprise because it was so full of inconsistencies and contradictions to established Trek history that the whole show was mmore and less an inconsistence and contradiction itself.

...but not to outright stop us watching.

 

[Lynx]

When I did my Bad Science series in 2019, Voyager was the obvious starting point. It's at the point of being enjoyably bad, where the flaws are sufficient to generate decades of derision...



...but not to outright stop us watching.

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The difference between Voyager and series like Discovery and Enterprise is that Voyager, at least for the first three seasons had excellent characters and good storytelling besides the contradictions and inconsistencies.

While Enterprise and Discovery are just plain bad.
Bad storytelling and bad characters plus the contradictions and inconsistencies. That's why I stopped watching them.

I recently stopped watching NCIS Hawaii for the same reason. If I can't stand a series after five or six episodes, then it's better to quit.

 

[fireproof78]

I recently stopped watching NCIS Hawaii for the same reason. If I can't stand a series after five or six episodes, then it's better to quit.

More generous than I. Most series get two and then I'm out.

 

[Oddish]

I expect an NCIS fan might give an NCIS offshoot more of a look than they otherwise would. Because, you know, it's NCIS.

 

[Lynx]

I expect an NCIS fan might give an NCIS offshoot more of a look than they otherwise would. Because, you know, it's NCIS.

Good point actually. I can understand your view here. But I think a bit different.

I'm a fan but I'm not a worshipper. If something I like turns bad, then I have no qualms when it comes to simply abandoning it. Sometimes I do it with a vengeance, sometimes the break-up is more sad.

I followed the original NCIS for 18 seasons, never missing a single episode and If I did miss one, I was blessed with another channel who have had NCIS constantly on re-run so sooner or later the episode I missed would show up.

But the series took a turn to the worse in season 18 when three good characters, among them main character Gibbs left and were replaced by characters I don't like. I tried to watch some episodes in season 19 but simply gave up. Fortunately I have NCIS seasons 1-13 on DVD:s so I can watch the show from start, which I'm actually doing now.

Unfortunately the same thing happened with NCIS LA and NCIS New Orleans. Good characters, among them a character in NCIS New Orleans played by Zoe McLellan (Tal Celes of Voyager) were replaced by characters I simply can't stand so I stopped watching.

That's my way of handling changes I don't like. And I guess you all know the story about how I handled "the changes in season 4" of Voyager too.

In fact, I was the same as a rock fan when I was a kid. If a band I liked sold out, became too commercial and syupy for my taste or if some important band member left which affected the music, then down with the posters from the wall and replace them with new ones.

Unfortunately, there's not much left to replace the damaged goods with in this dystopian decade, neither in music nor in TV-series or movies.

 

[Oddish]

Once sharing music digitally became a thing, it kind of stopped being profitable.

 

[Farscape One]

Once sharing music digitally became a thing, it kind of stopped being profitable.

Wasn't that why Napster got sued back then, and lost the case badly enough that it got wiped out of existence soon after?

 

[Oddish]

Before then, the internet didn't really have the capacity to digitize songs. Once it became possible, Napster devastated the music industry by basically allowing everyone to get music free. It got shut down, but free sharing of music goes on. I can still listen to any song I want by calling it up on YouTube.

 

[fireproof78]

I expect an NCIS fan might give an NCIS offshoot more of a look than they otherwise would. Because, you know, it's NCIS.

Being a fan doesn't buy good will in a franchise. It either works or it doesn't for me.