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I find these 'solutions' way more depressing than how the series actually went down. I think I'd rather take the inconsistencies, improbabilities and loose ends It's entertainment, after all.
Not sure of the canonicity of LD, and I'm not sure if this even constitutes a spoiler (I don't watch the show, I was just watching one of those 'things you may have missed' videos on YouTube). So I'll put the very minor background visual in a spoiler just in case.
On Lower decks, at one point we see one of those squishy fish-babies Janeway & Paris had.
Now THAT retroactively creates a continuity problem, so here's my solution... THRESHOLD {ending}
Chakotay: "I don't know how I'm going to enter this into the log."
Tuvok: "I look forward to reading it."
{they grab the creatures and go, but Neelix pops up through the underbrush a moment later, looking around}
Neelix: "There are some very interesting edible plants... eh? You guys leaving already? {looks down} "Whats this? Hey, just thing for me to try that Earth-recipe, Sushi!" {scoops up the three tadpoles in a net and stuffs them into his satchel, then turns and walks in the same direction the others headed}. FADE
I'll let you use your imagination why there is only one left. LOL
And on a more serious not, I actually researched this because it bothered me. Naomi Wildman's 'horns', when EVERY Ktarian we've been shown does not have them. The Wiki came up with a half-assed reason (since when do Wiki's give personal theories?), but in my research, I figured-out a better one.
Every single Ktarian shown was female, except one who had became Borg. There are two males mentioned in dialogue (Naomi's dad and some creepy doctor), but we've never seen them. So every female Ktarian definitely looks a certain way - head split into two 'cranial lobes', but the one male has been severely biologically altered to fit being Borg - he could have easily had those little horns going down his forehead before the Borg filed them off/down/whatever. And the other males we never saw. Thus, my solution is that they are a Dimorphic species, and since Naomi only gets her Ktarian genes from her male side, her hybrid-mutation manifested in the male way. EDIT: Almost forgot - we are supposed to present these in a way that could have been quickly fixed in-dialogue...
Samantha Wildman: "she's beautiful!" (and so much livelier than that other baby!)
Doctor: "Yes, all things considered, she appears perfectly healthy..."
Janeway: {looking concerned} "ummm, doctor... don't only male Ktarians have the ridge-spikes? I've met a few of both sexes, and the females have smooth heads."
Doctor: "Quite right, but since the baby only has male Ktarian DNA, her mutation presented as male - its perfectly normal."
Not sure of the canonicity of LD, and I'm not sure if this even constitutes a spoiler (I don't watch the show, I was just watching one of those 'things you may have missed' videos on YouTube). So I'll put the very minor background visual in a spoiler just in case.
On Lower decks, at one point we see one of those squishy fish-babies Janeway & Paris had.
Now THAT retroactively creates a continuity problem, so here's my solution... THRESHOLD {ending}
Chakotay: "I don't know how I'm going to enter this into the log."
Tuvok: "I look forward to reading it."
{they grab the creatures and go, but Neelix pops up through the underbrush a moment later, looking around}
Neelix: "There are some very interesting edible plants... eh? You guys leaving already? {looks down} "Whats this? Hey, just thing for me to try that Earth-recipe, Sushi!" {scoops up the three tadpoles in a net and stuffs them into his satchel, then turns and walks in the same direction the others headed}. FADE
I'll let you use your imagination why there is only one left. LOL
It's not a baby: presumably it's some one else who travelled at warp 10. Also, Lower Decks is definitely canon: they're even crossing over with Strange New Worlds next season.
Yesterday, i just felt for an exciting movie or serie of some sort.
So I switched on my paid channel which shows moves and series. The first I encountered was Hunger Games.
The next one showed Hunger Games 2!
So after telling the world what I thought about the current trends of movies and series, I watched Voyager's Basics #1 and Basics #2 on DVD:s instead!
Well, Alcar wasn't really a relationship per se, it had to be some kind of a psychic tether that ensured Deanna would stay close to him, so that he could continue to... well, whatever he was doing.
That's correct. But still....she did seem to be somewhat attracted to him even before he brought up that gem from that coffin-like box he had and started with his rituals.
Given that it was possible to force the "game" on other people, I can see how it could theoretically happen. All you need is 3-4 addicts, and they can subdue and assimilate a few more, one victim at a time. Then, once you have six, break into two teams, and the control spreads exponentially from there. Given Picard's fondness for games, I wager he was one of the non-volunteers.
It's not a bad episode tension-wise, and I don't begrudge Wesley his action (and possibly getting a bit of action with ensign Lefler as well). It's just that the amount of stupidity and injudiciousness I'd have to assume for the elite and supposedly highly trained Enterprise crew for this scheme to work in the first place requires too much suspension of disbelief for me.
Yesterday, i just felt for an exciting movie or serie of some sort.
So I switched on my paid channel which shows moves and series. The first I encountered was Hunger Games.
I think that "Hunger Games" is popular with teens because they feel like society is picking on them anyway. So, the author creates a world that really does pick on teen-agers. I think that "The Long Walk" by Stephen King is in the same vein.
Let's just say, I had to develop that 'gift' at a very early age because of my strict religious upbringing.
As an adult, while being in a looser connection to that heritage, I still accept from it that stories (mythological or just for entertainment) don't necessarily need to make sense to me in all details to accept them as stories. I get more upset when I have the feeling the 'message' it brings is troublesome (e.g. 'people of good will are just naïve and are rightfully punished for their stupidity by those around them that are stronger and smarter and take what they can get').
It's not a baby: presumably it's some one else who travelled at warp 10. Also, Lower Decks is definitely canon: they're even crossing over with Strange New Worlds next season.
I don't believe that was actually established, merely assumed.
The idea that another human - under completely different circumstances - still underwent millions of years of evolution and turned into the same exact creature? Its already pretty shady Janeway did (although there was enough commonality there for it to work, plus she was with Paris which could have affected her evolutionary path), but some other random individual? Not really buying it, unless they slap some ST-style psuedo-science around it.
But that would establish predestiny, which is dangerous to do in Trek.
I think that LD episode established it was people who went through experiments gone wrong, which certainly fits with thinking that was another unfortunate warp 10 salamander and not the offspring of one.
Maybe we are looking at the evolutionary thing the wrong way. Yes, evolution is governed by having to adapt to changes, whether it be environmental or otherwise.
When Paris and Janeway went through it, there were no environment changes, so maybe what we saw was just what could happen if nothing forces a change. Dollars to donuts, Starfleet wanted to run a warp 10 flight on their own. And given it probably had similar conditions for testing... endless holodeck runs, a single flight with a one man shuttle... I can see that happening again to the next poor soul.
Though why Starfleet wouldn't just use The Doctor's solution is baffling.
I don't believe that was actually established, merely assumed.
The idea that another human - under completely different circumstances - still underwent millions of years of evolution and turned into the same exact creature? Its already pretty shady Janeway did (although there was enough commonality there for it to work, plus she was with Paris which could have affected her evolutionary path), but some other random individual? Not really buying it, unless they slap some ST-style psuedo-science around it.
I have a way to deal with the series' "inconsistencies" . . . leave it alone. If you're not willing to deal with or acknowledge the inconsistencies in the other Trek shows (with the exception of "Discovery"), why bother dealing with the ones in "Voyager"?
I have a way to deal with the series' "inconsistencies" . . . leave it alone. If you're not willing to deal with or acknowledge the inconsistencies in the other Trek shows (with the exception of "Discovery"), why bother dealing with the ones in "Voyager"?
While Voyager has a lot of glaring ones, I can assure you, most of us do the same with the inconsistencies in all of the shows. A lot of the time it's part of the fun. Telling fans to "let it go" isn't going to accomplish anything.
I have a way to deal with the series' "inconsistencies" . . . leave it alone. If you're not willing to deal with or acknowledge the inconsistencies in the other Trek shows (with the exception of "Discovery"), why bother dealing with the ones in "Voyager"?
While Voyager has a lot of glaring ones, I can assure you, most of us do the same with the inconsistencies in all of the shows. A lot of the time it's part of the fun. Telling fans to "let it go" isn't going to accomplish anything.
I'm actually doing the same with the inconsistencies and contradictions in all the Trek shows and it's actually funny to try to come up with and explanation to all those inconsistencies.
However, Voyager had more inconsistencies and contradictions than the other shows. Fortunately it's very easy to correct them with a little imagination and fantasy. I've created a certain page on the Kes Website only for that!
However, i'm excluding Discovery from my nitpicking and corrections because I can't stand that series. I have also excluded Enterprise because it was so full of inconsistencies and contradictions to established Trek history that the whole show was mmore and less an inconsistence and contradiction itself.
I think that "Hunger Games" is popular with teens because they feel like society is picking on them anyway. So, the author creates a world that really does pick on teen-agers. I think that "The Long Walk" by Stephen King is in the same vein.
The sad thing is that teenagers are force-fed with all those doom-and-gloom stories abouth a dystopic society without hope which might be a reason why society is full with people without hope, without views and without any will to make things better. Not to mention the criminality, violence and drug abuse.
I think that teenagers need stories which makes them creative, with hope of a better future and with a will to make the future better, just like Star Trek was in the 60's (TOS) and 90's (TNG, DS9 and VOY).
Unfortunately, TV series and movies seem to be a mirror of the development in society. Good, hopeful decades=good, hopeful, exciting series and movies. Bad, dystopian decades=crappy doom-and-gloom series and movies.
As for Stephen King's The Long Walk, I haven't read it so I cant' comment on it.
It's entertainment, after all.
), why bother dealing with the ones in "Voyager"?
