And Spock often held the tricorder with the scanning side towards him and the interface side away from him XD
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You don't agree that I was talking about revealing the existence of secret family members? How odd.
No.
I expect no more then X-Men movie levels of continuity from Trek. After all these things aren't mistakes, it's the new writers thinking these changes will make for a better story. I just relax and enjoy the ride.
The X-Men movies mixed things up so bad that by the last few films I gave up and decided to wait for the reboot instead. Star Trek can do much much better than that.
There's nothing even remotely 'objective' in this post.
I don't like the writing on DSC much at all. But as far as I'm concerned, the writing on TNG is literally just as bad. The only major differences between them are tone and the overarching effects that come from episodic writing versus serialized writing. And characterization is actually far better done on DSC overall than TNG, which stars mostly cardboard cutouts being run circles around by Data and Picard (and in the early seasons, Wesley).
In the Star Trek 5 comic adaptation by Peter David, Kirk says that he's lost two brothers, and he's lucky that he got one of them back.
^^^ That sounds familiar, yes. I suspect both the book and adaptation were likely based off original scripts, which were later adjusted to reflect Kirk's "figurative" brother, Spock, as only people familiar with "Operation Annihilate" would have been aware of Kirk's real twin brother. Non-fans would have been, like, "Wait... Kirk had another brother? WTF?" Or, at least, that would have been the studio suits' concern that might have happened.
I was responding to a succession of quoted posts that were in direct response to one of my posts that you had quoted, and saying I was overstating my case. There’s nothing odd about me continuing to express my feelings on this topic in this thread, which you did not start and don’t get to dictate the flow of.
Also, I disagree that your dismissal of Spock’s parents as a reveal makes any sense. I think saying they weren’t revealed is incorrect. The line of discussion you responded to wasn’t about it being a surprise that Spock had parents at all, it was about him revealing who they were.
I find it much more odd that you’re coming into a conversation and telling other people what they are and aren’t talking about, and then accusing me of doing just that.
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Which is typical of tie in media writers who know the lore better that the folks writing the films
Getting complicated, isn't it?
I'm not dictacting anything. I'm saying that it was entirely expected for Spock to have parents, as he did not, presumably, spring out of the ground, and thus I don't think the job of his parents are data points towards your interpretation.
I think you misunderstand me. I was telling you what _I_ was talking about.
Of course not. He's a space elf not a space dwarf
I thought that it was the Super Orcs which sprouted from the ground ...Of course not. He's a space elf not a space dwarf
Space Orcs!?I thought that it was the Super Orcs which sprouted from the ground ...
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Getting complicated, isn't it?
I'm not dictacting anything. I'm saying that it was entirely expected for Spock to have parents, as he did not, presumably, spring out of the ground, and thus I don't think the job of his parents are data points towards your interpretation.
I think you misunderstand me. I was telling you what _I_ was talking about.
No one here has suggested that Spock having parents at all is a surprise other than you, you’re either continuing to misunderstand, or intentionally misrepresenting my case while criticizing it for not confirming to your false characterization of what I’m saying.
Spock’s parents (who they are, not the fact that they exist at all) were revealed to both the audience, and more pertinently to my point, to Kirk and the other crew, and support a pattern of behavior of Spock’s that includes the reveals of T’Pring, Sybok and Michael.
I’ve explained what I’m talking about, and your continual repetition that my point/case has anything to do with the idea that Spock having parents at all should be surprising is categorically incorrect.
Excellent. So we agree that surprise new family members happened only once before Burnham.
And before you claim again that this isn't what we were talking about:
I mean, Chekov had a brother killed by the Klingons at the Archanis research outpost named Piotr. Until it was revealed Piotr was imaginary and planted in Chekov's mind by an alien entity to fuel his hatred and thirst to commit violence.
Which sets a precedence that I would expect to be used again, since Spock is a demonstrably private person.
Granted.
Spock is so private he barely even talked about his inner turmoil when V'Ger was in telepathic proximity to him. And that was a mission where Spock spilling the beans about all that was happening inside his mind would have been fairly helpful.
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