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Spoilers Strange New Worlds General Discussion Thread

2. I hate going by general consensus but, nevertheless: for TNG, DS9, and ENT the general consensus is that those series got better during the later seasons. The only exception to this is arguably VOY. So the "boring later seasons" argument hasn't applied to Star Trek so far.
Disagree. The general consensus is that TNG peaked in the middle (seasons 3-5), but was running out of steam by season 7.
 
Disagree. The general consensus is that TNG peaked in the middle (seasons 3-5), but was running out of steam by season 7.

I sort of agree but TNG season 6 is still pretty good. Season 7 is the shows worst season. Even worst than season 1 and 2.

Jason
 
DS9 did kill some people though over the years. Eddington, Muniz and Jadzia
Eddington and Muniz were not main cast. Hell, Muniz doesn't even count as a supporting character, he was only in three episodes and the most memorable thing about him is the fact that the characters actually mourned his death afterwards. Eddington's death was in a Sweeps episode, which sort of fits my pattern in that they arranged for his death to be in a period where they knew they were going to get maximum viewers. Jadzia died in a season finale, which is exactly what I was talking about.
 
No. But because of the way this particular series came into existence, I'm going to keep reminding them. :devil:
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Would anybody else like to see SNW visiting Ardana so that we can see Stratos redone with modern technology and production values?

You mean an episode where Pike and Spock have to ignore the rather on-the-nose slavery of a Federation member world? And how the Enterprise knows nothing of the situation when it comes back ten years later. No thanks.
 
You mean an episode where Pike and Spock have to ignore the rather on-the-nose slavery of a Federation member world? No thanks.

I know that's why I wrote that I have no idea what the characters would even do on Ardana, since the heroes couldn't very well leave the society as it is with all it's horribleness. It was really just about the concept and visuals of a floating city.
There's a reason Symbiosis (TNG) is such a hated episode after all.

So it might really be better to have another floating city, if the trope appears.
 
I know that's why I wrote that I have no idea what the characters would even do on Ardana, since the heroes couldn't very well leave the society as it is with all it's horribleness. It was really just about the concept and visuals of a floating city.
There's a reason Symbiosis (TNG) is such a hated episode after all.

So it might really be better to have another floating city, if the trope appears.

All I know, is that the SNW folks have their work cut out for them. I don’t envy them their tasks.
 
With Stratos they could change it so instead of slavery they have systemic racism and people go to work in those mines because they need the money. The message being that if problems don't get solved things will get worst. As for Pike and them not saving them that could be due to the Federation high council intervening because they need them for the stuff they mine. Not every episode has to have a happy ending though most of them should I think.

Jason
 
You know they could also save Stratos for Picard instead and sort of see where they ended up 100 years later. Maybe a old problem has come back and Androids are being used for slave labor in the mines now.


Jason
 
They wanted to do a Stratos episode on ENT if it had gotten a 5th season. I think it would have worked better as an ENT episode since Spock wasn't there.
 
Well, they could show it, maybe without spock going down, with a story of how Pike doesn't like the Caste system, but according to Federation Rules, Prime Directive, they can't interfere in individual planets governments, even if there a member of the federation. Maybe at the end Pike asks the Federation Counsel to change its admittance rules to abolish any caste/slavery system. Or Pike was sent there to seek admittance, and Pike says no because of the Caste system, but the Counsel overrides his objection because of the need of the Zenite.
Then Kirk goes in and bends the prime directive and tries to help the slaves.
 
It would be nice if they decided to make it clear that in the 23rd century and specifically during Pike's command the Federation had fuck-all to say about how most of the galaxy's worlds governed themselves and conducted trade among themselves, and that as a reality of life the Federation had to deal diplomatically and economically with those civilizations.

Or would that make fans too uncomfortable?
 
It would be nice if they decided to make it clear that in the 23rd century and specifically during Pike's command the Federation had fuck-all to say about how most of the galaxy's worlds governed themselves and conducted trade among themselves, and that as a reality of life the Federation had to deal diplomatically and economically with those civilizations.

Or would that make fans too uncomfortable?

Didn't DS9 already sort of do that? You could often tell via the Ferengi characters their was a whole world of commerce happening outside of the Federation or the Federation would have to deal with these worlds. The Ferengi were not just a bunch of aliens who liked profit but a actual economic power in the Quadrant. In fact our first exposure to the Dominion is via Quark on behalf of his government trying to get into the Tullyberry wine business.


Jason
 
Well alot of TOS episodes have the first part where a Redshirt dies to say THE STAKES ARE REAL!!
Did it need it all the time? nope,
 
Kurtzman kind of confirmed that there will be 10 SNW episodes. He said the writing staff is breaking down 10 stories.
 
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