You mean Admiral Marcus.....lol
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They can always use ethical Andorian tactics instead (or any of the other species that make up the Federation)
Indeed. I think Diane Carey's non-canon novel Final Frontier (1988 and not to be confused with ST5 which used the same title) was genius in this regard. Using ideas from that would be great to flesh out S2 (even better if they'd used it for S1 but too late now).
Basically it explains the first, subsequently classified, mission of the newly launched NCC 1701 Enterprise under Capt Robert April with Commander George Kirk as XO. But that's not really the underlying message. April sees the Connies as a way to explore and help address concerns non-human Federation worlds have about Starfleet - namely "what might those humans do one day with a Federation navy?" Kirk quite explicitly calls him on what the Connies can do - they're 23rd century battleships which can kick seven kinds of crap out of Klingons/Romulans/anyone else who keeps giving the Federation grief. Needless to say they compromise in the end with April giving a speech saying that although the 12 (14?) Connies tend to have military sounding names, they are of the Constitution Class, showing their underlying use, grandma's apple pie blah blah blah.
Well, in these still early days of the Federation, I'd be willing to bet there's still a lot of residual worry among non-human Federation worlds about exactly what Starfleet (dominated by humans) might do ("eek, the Feds!" syndrome)....ESPECIALLY if they learnt that it used tactics from a MU human racist xenophobe to win a war. Starfleet must make the MU classified (along with around 10 years of major titbits Georgiou might give them from those redacted Defiant data logs) in order to assuage such doubts. The fact a bunch of Starfleet vessels which are part science-part defence presumably have almost lost them the war will also streamline Starfleet into a "Connie + Connie-lite" organisation, once the Klingons are defeated, the neutral zone is set up, and they go back to exploration to assuage non-human doubts about what humans can really do. (Let's not forget the Ferengi conversation in DS9 where Quark lectures on what humans are REALLY capable of, so we know such concerns persist).
But whatever they do the writers should not go near the whole "science-faith relationship" thing that someone linked to. It'll be like Xmas dinner with extended family discussing politics. Nobody wins, there's wine strewn across the wall and it's a disaster. Just like Seasons 3 and 4 turned out to be in BSG when it became obvious Moore was now winging it, rather than following the supposed writers' bible he had for initial seasons. Yes, we know ST has done episodes with "god-like" characters but they were under an episodic format - I have a soft spot for the TNG episode Tapestry and the banter between Picard and Q ("Blasphemy! I should smite you or something!") - but as a story arc. Nooooooooooo!
I raised this as a solution to having a timeline reset. But I acknowledged your point that this relies on a LOT of people keeping schtum on the MU, once Starfleet makes knowledge of it classified. That (as I said elsewhere) is a WEAK argument and about the only thing to be said for it is that it beats a "reset" via time travel, but that's a low bar to clear....the writers have pushed themselves into a corner here and no solution is going to be good, merely, possibly "less stupid".
Androids?
So they'll end up in this colony planet? That'll be a fitting ending for them, I think
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Deadly_Years_(episode)
Well, when Stamets commented on how the mycelial network dying would end all life, everywhere, he did say "in ALL universes". Plus if there were just the binary MU and PU, then finding the way home wouldn't be so hard, as there is only one path between them then, the rest being just paths through normal space/time.
They know they are back to their original (prime) universe because of the quantum resonance frequency. It matches their own bodies and physical objects. If it was off, that would indicate yet another non-prime universe was reached, regardless of the temporal coordinates.
Section 31 will reset their memories lol
In TOS.
I guess a streaming show doesn't have to worry about going up against the Super Bowl.
Yeah, those of us who are trek geeks and sports geeks will stream it after the Super Bowl party.
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Tilly being stoned explains pretty much everything.
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It's looking very likely, that assuming they can use the spore drive again.But which everybody is getting
Where's the need to classify the androids of TOS (or DSC)?
Nobody claims Data would be the first android built by the Federation (he wasn't even built by the Federation!), merely the first with a positronic brain.
Now, Airiam might be a problem if she were an android, as those serving in Starfleet is what need be unknown in the TNG era... But apparently she's just a cyborg of some sort.
Timo Saloniemi
Was he billed in the first two episodes? I can't remember.
But, yeah, billing is contractual and I doubt things will change on that front until next season.
Yes, he was. The credits for the first two episodes listed everyone from the main cast, despite the fact only two of them (Sonnequa Martin-Green and Doug Jones) were in those episodes. So yeah, Jason Isaacs will still be listed in the remaining episodes. Just like in season one of TNG, Denise Crosby continued to be listed in the opening credits for the episodes which aired after Skin of Evil.
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