By what time? Spock's service? His death? The day they put up the wall?
Spock is an Academy graduate.
Whose names would you put on the wall?
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Spock is an Academy graduate.
Regarding Garak, I meant.
Preston appears twice on the wall
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Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
As can be seen, Peter Preston, Scotty's nephew from "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan", appears twice on the memory wall: in column 2L, correctly listed as Midshipman First Class (MIDN FC) ➡️ but also in column 4L, giving his rank as "MIDNIC", whatever that means. 😅 3/3
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Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Column 6L on the commemoration wall at #StarfleetAcademy features three notable Starfleet officers of the 24th/25th century, namely Captain Cristóbal Rios, Captain Liam Shaw and Captain Carol Freeman. There's also Lt. Cmdr Connor Rossa (#StarTrekTNG's "Suddenly Human"😅). 🧵 1/2
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So some of the rows are added in post-production
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Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
In case you have been wondering why the number of columns of names on the commemoration wall at #StarfleetAcademy changes from shot to shot or why an on-set photo from "Beta Test"⬇️, released months ago, looks different from the actual shot in the episode ⬆️, you'll find out here and now. 🧵 1/3
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Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
It is because on set, there are 12 columns of names. But there is some space to the left and right of those 12 columns on the commemoration wall, so in some shots, the VFX department adds a 13th and 14th column (L7+R7) in post production, as confirmed by VFX supervisor Brian Tatosky at Mastodon. 2/3
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Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Look at these screenshots from #StarfleetAcademy's "Beta Test"⬆️ and "Vitus Reflux"⬇️. I cannot tell the difference between the names present on the physical wall and the ones added later in post production. I think they did a really great job here! :-) 3/3
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Wow, talk about a waste of time/money.So some of the rows are added in post-production
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
In case you have been wondering why the number of columns of names on the commemoration wall at #StarfleetAcademy changes from shot to shot or why an on-set photo from "Beta Test"⬇️, released months ago, looks different from the actual shot in the episode ⬆️, you'll find out here and now. 🧵 1/3Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
It is because on set, there are 12 columns of names. But there is some space to the left and right of those 12 columns on the commemoration wall, so in some shots, the VFX department adds a 13th and 14th column (L7+R7) in post production, as confirmed by VFX supervisor Brian Tatosky at Mastodon. 2/3Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Look at these screenshots from #StarfleetAcademy's "Beta Test"⬆️ and "Vitus Reflux"⬇️. I cannot tell the difference between the names present on the physical wall and the ones added later in post production. I think they did a really great job here! :-) 3/3
They should have just made the wall out of LED panels, would have allowed the same effect for a fraction of the cost.
I think it’s cool that they are doing this kind of stuff, because it supports the fan theory that in-universe the wall is programmable matter and able to show different names from the various centuries of Starfleet’s history.
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Here are columns 7L and 7R on the commemoration wall at #Starfleet Academy. These columns only contain 14 names (instead of 15), are added in post production and honor the people working in the show's VFX department (most of the names). Brian Tatosky kindly provided me with the complete list. 🧵1/2
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the full list in one post
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I find it interesting that Gene Roddenberry is omitted.
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Here it is, a compilation of all the names seen on the Commemoration wall at #StarfleetAcademy. There are 208 names all in all, 2 characters (Airiam+Peter Preston) are listed twice. 92 names (44,23%, red) are of previously known characters, 116 names (55,77%, black) are new. This was a lot of work!
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I find it interesting that Gene Roddenberry is omitted.
Honestly, I always thought it was silly they put him on every dedication plaque as Starfleet's Commander and Chief. Especially once they started listing names on the plaques in other centuries. He's there on the Enterprise B's at the end of the 23rd century and even on Relativity's in the 29th.the full list in one post
Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)
Here it is, a compilation of all the names seen on the Commemoration wall at #StarfleetAcademy. There are 208 names all in all, 2 characters (Airiam+Peter Preston) are listed twice. 92 names (44,23%, red) are of previously known characters, 116 names (55,77%, black) are new. This was a lot of work!
I find it interesting that Gene Roddenberry is omitted.
And before anyone starts on "oh they never expected those plaques to be readable to the audience" by the time they did the Enterprise B's in Generations, they knew it was likely. By that point, the Enterprise D's plaque was represented in various forms for people to look at, such as the Encyclopedia, and indeed the Journey's End TV special which commemorated TNG's ending even had Jonathan Frakes reading out the plaque, Roddenberry's name included. Definitely by the time Relativity came around, they knew there was a very legitimate probability someone was going to pause and try to read that plaque. Hell, a scene even starts with the camera focused entirely on the plaque, so they were basically daring the audience to read it.