Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x11 - "The Wolf Inside"

[JirinPanthosa]

Just watched the first two eps of this half of the season.

Same reaction to this as the previous one. I love the execution but still fail to understand WHY they decided to bring the crew to the MU this early in the series. Sure they've done a really good job with the de-camped version of the MU, but if you asked me to put odds on which show would go to a mirror universe first, Orville or Discovery, I would have thought the odds were 10:1 in favor of Orville. They're reinventing Trek by going where nearly all Treks have gone before, why?

 

[EnderAKH]

They took him directly to the transporter room.

So unless you want to try to say they were standing around the transporter room for hours waiting for Burnham to arrive.

But, they didn't. I just watched it to check. They take Tyler away, Burnham and Detmer stand in the hallway and talk for a moment, then Burnham watches Detmer walk away down the hall and doesn't follow, she stays standing outside her quarters. Then we go to Discovery for the council of Stamets. Then we go back to the Shenzhou with Detmer and Burnham walking together down a hall. Obviously time has passed, and now we are joining them for the execution. Unless your theory is that in the instant we switch scenes to Discovery, Burnham suddenly chases down the hall after Detmer going "Girl, I am GOING to that execution."

 

[cooleddie74]

The Klingons were already alien enough for the most part. There was no need to turn them into California Raisins with lockjaw.

 

[EnderAKH]

Just watched the first two eps of this half of the season.

Same reaction to this as the previous one. I love the execution but still fail to understand WHY they decided to bring the crew to the MU this early in the series. Sure they've done a really good job with the de-camped version of the MU, but if you asked me to put odds on which show would go to a mirror universe first, Orville or Discovery, I would have thought the odds were 10:1 in favor of Orville. They're reinventing Trek by going where nearly all Treks have gone before, why?

They have gone there for 8 out of 725 episodes. I don't think a few more is going to be considered a flood of episodes.

 

[Hugo Rune]

What was the point of that Tribble if not to use it to reveal Tyler?

Either

(A) It's Star Trek. They are recognisable Trek props used to add dimension to the set and the Lorca character

(B) It's a fan nod. A cute little addition to the piece as a wink to the audience

(C) To fuck with the fans. Knowing where they were going with the Tyler material, the presence of a Tribble automatically sets off the Trekkie continuity juices leaving them to slavver endlessly about how they predicted it all right from the get go cos of a terrified ball of fur reacting to the Wolf Inside. A red herring then, not a Chekov's phaser.

It's really mostly A and B, perhaps with a touch of C.

Hugo - nah, mostly C

 

[Bay17]

Just watched the first two eps of this half of the season.

Same reaction to this as the previous one. I love the execution but still fail to understand WHY they decided to bring the crew to the MU this early in the series. Sure they've done a really good job with the de-camped version of the MU, but if you asked me to put odds on which show would go to a mirror universe first, Orville or Discovery, I would have thought the odds were 10:1 in favor of Orville. They're reinventing Trek by going where nearly all Treks have gone before, why?

Did wonder that myself. Never been a big MU fan, seems more of a fan thing to want to see an evil twin to their favourite characters rather than something which would appeal to the wider audience they are looking for

 

[Bay17]

They have gone there for 8 out of 725 episodes. I don't think a few more is going to be considered a flood of episodes.

Agreed but not so much questioning the amount of MU episodes as the timing

Still, they’re doing it well

 

[SolarisOne]

I like the bit about the Andorian helmet Mudd was wearing implying that they were being retconned as having huge compound eyes. I suppose the DSC-era Starfleet spacesuits, with their big bubble viewports, indicated humans were being retconned as having heads made up one one giant cyclopian eye.

That helmet looked like part of an old-school Kamen Rider suit.

 

[Bad Atom]

Did anyone else notice Jason Isaacs' accent was way off in his last scene? Totally threw me off.

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

They took him directly to the transporter room.

So unless you want to try to say they were standing around the transporter room for hours waiting for Burnham to arrive.

You may say that’s how it happened, but if you watch, that’s not how it happened.

As @EnderAKH pointed out, we see Tyler being taken away (by two security guards or something). Detmer soon follows behind them, but Burnham doesn’t. The next scene is back on Discovery with Stemets.

It wasn’t until after that Discovery scene that we again see Detmer (who had previously walked away) and Burnham walking together. We have no idea how much time had passed. I’m not saying it was all day, but it could have easilybeen much longer than just a few minutes.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Did anyone else notice Jason Isaacs' accent was way off in his last scene? Totally threw me off.

Yeah, it went weird a few times.

 

[Hugo Rune]

He's been trapped in an agonizer booth.

Lorca is struggling to keep up the pretence that he's actually the real Lorca.

Hugo - the mask slips

 

[Jackson_Roykirk]

I found it difficult to take EAS seriously much of the time even when they liked Star Trek.

I’ve noticed that many of ex-astris’ specific complaints about DSC could easily be projected onto many many other episodes of Star Trek over the years, which makes me wonder if they really even like Star Trek at all.

I mean something doesn’t add up; their criticisms have not been applied consistently over the entirety of the franchise.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Come on there was no reason to have him on the bridge other than he was needed to smirk in the next scene. He's an enemy and should have been dragged off back to his torture chamber.

Like these guys?

It's for plot expediency. Get all the pieces one place. Streamline the number of scenes and cuts.

That standard answer is redundant. In this scenario - take the prisoner scum to the brig. There was time. It's the mirror universe, bash on the head and drag him off.

Redundant? Nah. Not as long as people keep forgeting it's a TV show.

I'm not seeing any resemblance to the Connie.

I see the vague outline of a Connie's primary hull

 

[WarpFactorZ]

I see the vague outline of a Connie's primary hull

Nah, way too big to be the Defiant/Constitution class , even embedded in a larger structure.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Nah, way too big to be the Defiant/Constitution class , even embedded in a larger structure.

Yep, that is the one flaw in my theory.

 

[cooleddie74]

That's probably just the "Palace," the flagship of the Terran Empire and constructed to look almost like a city in space. Designed to both awe and intimidate with its sheer size and visual complexity.

 

[Jesse1066]

My first thought was Space Vegas.

 

[Nerys Myk]

My first thought was Space Vegas.

I think that's called Carillon.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

I think that's called Carillon.

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