Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by NewHeavensNewEarth, Feb 6, 2020.
How is he at Kirk-Fu though?
nice! though my one fear about SNW is that they're going to revert back to the outdated 1966 enterprise
Yepp - and that's the reason, why I normally prefer longer seasons - irrespective of the ongoing arc's quality.
And then again, there's not only the story but also the discourse
Of course, two different series have two different production processes. But at the end, the product itself, was very similiar in this point: Both of them gave enough time to the story arc to increase, before they really jumped into it.
As distinct from the outdated kludge they used in STD?
I mean, if you think there was anything modern or stylish about the Discoprise....
Hopefully they'll refine the ship's detail a great deal for the series and dump a lot of the ugly dumb stuff - much of it inappropriate callbacks to older versions 9f the ship. Even STD improved their hero ship a great deal between the first and second years.
They can do something about those unimaginative bridge graphics, too - who reads giant rotating images of the ship in every direction you look as functional displays providing information to anyone?
The TOS design is outdated, I'm sorry.
The DSC design certianlly looks better than then the TOS Enterprise in the context of the 21st century, and fits in the lineage of the movie Refit better.
It's Star Trek, when have any of the displays ever been functional?
They won't. It's not the 60s anymore.
Well, it's not outdated and would require little more than what ENT did to the Defiant in "In A Mirror Darkly, Parts I and II" to make it shine on a 2021 or 2022 screen. I keep hearing some fans say it's archaic, outdated and obsolete but don't give good reasons why the external appearance of the ship is any of those. Frankly if the DSC Enterprise had straight TOS pylons and the right hull font it'd be about 95% of the way there.
It doesn't quite look like a possible ship design. It's darn close but not 100% there for me. The biggest part is probably the nacelle caps and the deflector dish.
Exactly so and then some. Why is everybody aping MINORITY REPORT-style readouts? Other than to keep their hands moving?
Some of them don't bother me but too many console readout displays in Kurtzman Trek are overengineered visual noise. And too blue. It's as if the producers were told to use the color blue to obnoxious levels or be fired.
I don't have anything against the TOS Enterprise, but they needed an Enterprise that looked like it would belong in DSC, especially since the Discovery and the Enterprise were supposed to be contemporaries of each other. Ships from around the same time shouldn't look too dramatically different from each other.
"Then they should've made Discovery look more like TOS!" But they didn't. What was done was done. So, given that, they needed an Enterprise that wouldn't look like it was out-of-place.
Since Strange New Worlds doesn't have to match Discovery's look -- being that it's an entirely separate series now -- they'll probably try to make it look closer to TOS than before, but, yeah, anyone who wants them to do what the previous regime did with "In a Mirror Darkly" is better off watching New Voyages.
I was also going to say Continues, but then I remembered who ran that show.
They used to, mostly in TOS and early TNG to save money, but not anymore. Modern Trek will always feature new, unique designs for aliens, or even redesign them if they're too human-looking.
*watches latest season of Discovery and learns Book is a Kwejian*
Damn it. Nevermind.
Continues was amazing, but I'm sure only fans can really enjoy it
That's it? That's your best defense for this stuff?
Not good enough.
Kurtzman Trek readouts mostly suck. Too blue, too busy and too much chaos. They don't have to directly mimic TOS but more color and less clutter would be a big improvement.
Continues: putting the "fanatic" back in to Star Trek fan film. Only enjoyable by real fans. Your mileage may vary. Look both ways before crossing the stress. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
Say what? The 1701 was lauched circa 2240 - the Discovery in 2258. <--- That's a near 20 year difference here.
No. 2245 for the Enterprise. 2256 for the Discovery. That's an 11-year difference.
Enough time for there to be some differences, but not enough time so that it's "Oh my God! That's so totally different!!!"
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