Spoilers The Acolyte

[fireproof78]

I've seen a few people talking about how bad Sol was, but I didn't really see him as a bad guy when I watched it. It seemed to me that he was a good guy and a good Jedi, who made one bad decision, for a good reason, and things just kind of spiraled out of control from there.

I don't think Sol was bad. I think he made a mistake, felt a huge amount of guilt over it, and tried to find a way to make peace over it with disclosing the truth.

Unfortunately, by the time he realized the need for the truth Osha already had doubts.

Every one of the Jedi had good intentions to one degree or another, but their ways of dealing with these crises were wrong.

That doesn't make them bad.

 

[137th Gebirg]

And if they'd owned up to all their mistakes when they happened (like the virtuous and honorable Jedi they were all supposed to have been), instead of let them fester for years, we wouldn't have had an "Acolyte" series!

 

[fireproof78]

And if they'd owned up to all their mistakes when they happened (like the virtuous and honorable Jedi they were all supposed to have been), instead of let them fester for years, we wouldn't have had an "Acolyte" series!

Indeed, yes.

And a very common choice for many people, no matter how virtuous they are.

 

[137th Gebirg]

True that… More’s the pity.

 

[Dee1891]

I didn't really expect to like "The Acolyte". In fact, I had come close to ignoring it altogether. I'm glad that I didn't. It has become one of my favorite Disney/Star Wars productions, along with "Rogue One", "Solo", the first two seasons of "The Mandalorian" and "Obi-Wan Kenobi".

 

[JD]

Indeed, yes.

And a very common choice for many people, no matter how virtuous they are.

I think sometimes the more virtuous people are more likely to make that kind of a choice, since they're probably going to be more ashamed of the mistake they made.

 

[fireproof78]

I think sometimes the more virtuous people are more likely to make that kind of a choice, since they're probably going to be more ashamed of the mistake they made.

Well, part of it can be confusing their own personal goals and their virtues. I think that's part of why things went so far was Sol was convinced he was motivated rightly, even though his guilt afterward bogged him down.

Vestra is in a similar place, and certain of her position that to consider otherwise feels like going against her virtues.

 

[Jax]

Caught up and finished the show over the weekend and after some early doubts the show ended strongly and the cameo from Plagues was a nice touch and if we get a 2nd season then we can see where this is going.

Before his cameo I was wondering if Osha would turn to the dark side kill her sister and her former Jedi Master. She would eventually usurp her new Master as Sith always do and then find a young Plagues to become her apprentice. Her powers and creation story introducing him to the power of eternal life and creating life seeing him usurp her and chase that for himself leading to Palpatine and the events of the PT.

But guess not lol

 

[fireproof78]

Her powers and creation story introducing him to the power of eternal life and creating life seeing him usurp her and chase that for himself leading to Palpatine and the events of the PT.

I could still seem Plageius being inspired and investigating Osha's origin leading to her being one of his experiments, and efforts to create life.

 

[Captrek]

Caught up and finished the show over the weekend and after some early doubts the show ended strongly and the cameo from Plagues was a nice touch and if we get a 2nd season then we can see where this is going. Before his cameo I was wondering if Osha would turn to the dark side kill her sister and her former Jedi Master. She would eventually usurp her new Master as Sith always do and then find a young Plagues to become her apprentice. Her powers and creation story introducing him to the power of eternal life and creating life seeing him usurp her and chase that for himself leading to Palpatine and the events of the PT.

But guess not lol

I doubt she’ll kill Mae, but she has already killed Sol, and the rest of that could still happen in Season 2 if we get one.

 

[Reverend]

I could still seem Plageius being inspired and investigating Osha's origin leading to her being one of his experiments, and efforts to create life.

It's also possible he was somehow involved with the witch coven's attempt in the first place. I mean unless she learned how to fly a ship (assuming there even was one left by the coven somewhere) at a VERY young age; The Stranger had to know Mae was there in the first place, or else how did she get off that planet? Also there's some logic in having this little cult do the test run for him, since succeed or fail; it isolates him from any blow-back from the Jedi.

Or he's tried before and it was the witches (probably Koril) that brought him the vital missing piece and they made a deal of some sort.

It's also possible that 90% of what Palpatine said to Anakin was BS, and Plagueis never actually pulled it off, nor had anything to do with Anakin's genesis.

Personally I like the ambiguity since it leaves things open for future storytellers to go either way if a second season doesn't happen. There's enough pieces to connect the dots a number of different ways.

 

[JD]

Well, part of it can be confusing their own personal goals and their virtues. I think that's part of why things went so far was Sol was convinced he was motivated rightly, even though his guilt afterward bogged him down.

Vestra is in a similar place, and certain of her position that to consider otherwise feels like going against her virtues.

Yeah, I think I understand what you're saying.

Caught up and finished the show over the weekend and after some early doubts the show ended strongly and the cameo from Plagues was a nice touch and if we get a 2nd season then we can see where this is going. Before his cameo I was wondering if Osha would turn to the dark side kill her sister and her former Jedi Master. She would eventually usurp her new Master as Sith always do and then find a young Plagues to become her apprentice. Her powers and creation story introducing him to the power of eternal life and creating life seeing him usurp her and chase that for himself leading to Palpatine and the events of the PT.

But guess not lol

I'm pretty sure Darth Plagueis is The Stranger's master, and I doubt she'll kill either of them, but I do think Plagueis will learn about creating life from her. Right now I'm thinking the relationship between the three of them will be that The Stranger will train Osha, and then report back to Plagueis, who's going to mostly be hiding back in the shadows, at least at first.

 

[AlanC9]

And if they'd owned up to all their mistakes when they happened (like the virtuous and honorable Jedi they were all supposed to have been), instead of let them fester for years, we wouldn't have had an "Acolyte" series!

Although Indara's reason for not owning up to what happened was actually pretty good. Getting a good outcome for the one person they actually rescued at the cost of the truth isn't a crazy decision. It might have even worked.

 

[JD]

They've released an On Set Stories video with the cast on Youtube.

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My favorite part was the confessions about all of the stuff that they stole, and the fact that the lightsabers were too big for Dafne Keen. I never really noticed before that she's that tiny.

 

[Tosk]

I'm always baffled at how actors stealing from the set is a funny anecdote. Can you imagine it being that way in any other workplace?

Poor Winona Ryder. She was just confused as to where she was stealing from, that's all.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Back in the day, when props and set pieces just went in the dumpsters after a production ended to make room for the studio's next thing, nobody even thought twice about taking a piece of that history with them. It was never a big deal.

Now, with production houses recouping their losses by dumping all that stuff on an auction bloc somewhere, it might be a little bit more restrictive.

 

[fireproof78]

I'm always baffled at how actors stealing from the set is a funny anecdote. Can you imagine it being that way in any other workplace?

Given the obsessive compulsive nature of fans wanting authentic replicas from films and TV shows I don't imagine other workplaces rising to this level, if only because the value placed on such items is absurd.

See also the Graflex flash assembly used to make the original lightsaber props. Collectors want it so badly that actually photography collectors and users (you know the thing the device was originally created for!) can't find it because of Star Wars fans. Absurdity.

I never really noticed before that she's that tiny.

She's 5'2". If that's tiny then my poor wife is even tinier at 5' 1/2".

 

[JD]

I'm always baffled at how actors stealing from the set is a funny anecdote. Can you imagine it being that way in any other workplace?

Poor Winona Ryder. She was just confused as to where she was stealing from, that's all.

Back in the day, when props and set pieces just went in the dumpsters after a production ended to make room for the studio's next thing, nobody even thought twice about taking a piece of that history with them. It was never a big deal.

Now, with production houses recouping their losses by dumping all that stuff on an auction bloc somewhere, it might be a little bit more restrictive.

It's such a open thing at this point, that I have feeling most of producers or whoever's in charge, are just letting them take the stuff. There's so much security around these kind of productions, I find it hard to believe the actors would really be able to steal this stuff without anyone knowing.

 

[Set Harth]

I don't really get why Qimir gave up in his final fight with Sol. His emitter was destroyed, but I thought his weapon was able to separate into two sabers. Wouldn't there still have been a working saber in there?

 

[cooleddie74]

I guess for a reason similar to Dooku just fleeing the fight with Yoda on Geonosis - he'd served his own purposes and didn't see a further need to keep fighting. Besides, with Osha showing up and filling with rage upon learning that Sol killed one of her mothers he knew she'd finish the job.