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Spoilers Vince Gilligan's Pluribus starring Rhea Seehorn
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I'm responding to a person who believes that the only reason that people died on day zero is that they were in air planes hurtling towards the earth or changing light bulbs atop of stepladders when the first seizures struck, as they are calling me a moron for not understanding the story as well as they do.you don't say...
It's a gift.
Well she said she was in the car with her grandfather who died and it crashed the car because of Carol's first hive mind freak out.
Well.
I was wrong.
That said, I love how the show didn't drag out the mystery and even headed off Carol when she went to Koumba with the truth: He already knew because the Others told him (and the rest of the Group of Eleven, as I'm calling them now). But HDP isn't just Soylent Green, it's "simply" nutrition that's produced from life that has already ceased to exist. It's not cannibalism if it's part of a healthy balanced diet that harms no life!*
All of this is part of a plan to prevent a looming sustenance crisis even if, as Carol points out, it's one that the Others created for themselves. I'm curious to see the direction this twist will take but I do like how the show has already subverted expectations with this reveal.
As for the other big reveal, I'm not surprised the Others have already discovered a solution...and it involves an invasive lumbar puncture procedure to extract stem cells. The only thing that surprises me is that Koumba said no to it, which makes me wonder if deep beneath his hedonism, he knows this whole situation is fucked up. I wonder if any of the other members of the Group of Eleven will accept the procedure.
Meanwhile...Manousos has gotten Carol's message and surprisingly it's enough to push him out of his self-inflicted isolation in order to travel to Albuquerque. I'm still curious what he was striving for with the ham radio...and there's a mysterious signal on one particular channel. I got serious LOST vibes from that moment and I consider that a good thing.
Lastly, Koumba's James Bond cosplay was wonderfully silly.
*Which also feels like some kind of commentary on vegetarianism and veganism but I won't dig too deeply into that (at least for now).
John Cena got a good laugh out of me.
Learning that most of the human race will starve to death seals the deal for me that this virus is some kind of techo-cordyceps, whose sole purpose is to spread throughout the galaxy. Like mind-controlled ants, the Joined have no purpose now beyond transmitting the virus code into space and then dying.
It's also a good stakes-raiser; they introduced this new ticking clock before removing the (IMO less interesting) ticking clock of Carol et al being converted.
Learning that most of the human race will starve to death seals the deal for me that this virus is some kind of techo-cordyceps, whose sole purpose is to spread throughout the galaxy. Like mind-controlled ants, the Joined have no purpose now beyond transmitting the virus code into space and then dying.
It's also a good stakes-raiser; they introduced this new ticking clock before removing the (IMO less interesting) ticking clock of Carol et al being converted.
Travel to Albuquerque by car will be difficult, because the road will end at the northern end of Colombia. Darien National park in southern Panama has no roads through it. He'll have to switch to a boat to travel from Colombia and get to a part of Panama, where the roads pick up again, in order to travel north to the USA.
As far as the ham radio, I imagine he is listening for anyone else like him to contact, that is not connected to the hive mind, and doesn't think the hive mind members are monitoring communications that low in tech.
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The hive is connected by some kind of electromagnetic transmissions.
7 billion people communicate constantly in real time across vast distance, ignoring the curvature of the Earth.
Lock down the frequency, and then block it.
His tools are shit, but the idea is sound.
No pun intended.
Unless they are communicating faster than light?
Which changes everything.
...
Google says 134 million babies are born every year.
Yeah, that's not happening any more.
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They're essentially Nazi collaborators.
If the Joined really stood behind their stance that humans would choose Joining if they'd experience both, here's what they'd do. Release everyone they've joined for a day, and give them the choice whether or not they want to come back. They aren't giving anyone that choice.
Edit: To be fair, so I don't seem like I'm falling into the misogyny trap of all those people who hated Skylar judging Laksmi. Koumba is *way* worse. He's essentially raping all those women. Their hosts did not give consent.
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Colombia, not Columbia ( which would either be in Canada or the US capital )
Thanks, I had to override the autocorrect.
Lastly, Koumba's James Bond cosplay was wonderfully silly.
It was, but also incredibly sad, there's something very hollow about his life now. I guess that's one of (many) comments on AI/the internet etc in this show.
Finally caught up with it all and didn't want to duck back in here until I had!
I agree by the way, the fact they won't even pick fruit makes this clearly a process designed to wipe out humanity (or whoever picked up the signal). Unless this is an unexpected consequence of how the virus interacts with humans. It's possible, and it's possible the senders genuinely believed they were helping other species, but at the moment it feels very much not a benign act! As genocides go it's weirdly humane I guess, the virus could just instil the urge to kill yourself and others. Maybe it isn't intended to wipe us out, just cull us down to a manageable level, a population that's never going to be big enough to develop interstellar travel?
On the food front there are synthetic foods, although I think the problem here would be one of scale.
Apologies if this has been said before, either here or another thread, but for all the Invasion of the Body Snatchers' vibes, this most reminds me of Trek's This Side of Paradise, with Carol very much cast in the Jim Kirk role
I had an interesting discussion with a friend this week who feels Carol is the bad guy. I see his point, and I think this is a great show that isn't providing easy answers, but I'm also 100% behind Carol on this!
When I heard this, I thought it sounded like someone made a simple beat on a drum machine or something. Maybe it is another person out there sorta doing what Manousos is, and waiting for someone to send some beats back. I don't think it's something one of the zombies would pick up on, so it would be an interesting way to message.
Virus could be making humanity susceptible to whatever the signal is. And I’m still not convinced this isn’t some kind of human invented event, designed to cull the herd.
It was, but also incredibly sad, there's something very hollow about his life now. I guess that's one of (many) comments on AI/the internet etc in this show.
Finally caught up with it all and didn't want to duck back in here until I had!
I agree by the way, the fact they won't even pick fruit makes this clearly a process designed to wipe out humanity (or whoever picked up the signal). Unless this is an unexpected consequence of how the virus interacts with humans. It's possible, and it's possible the senders genuinely believed they were helping other species, but at the moment it feels very much not a benign act! As genocides go it's weirdly humane I guess, the virus could just instil the urge to kill yourself and others. Maybe it isn't intended to wipe us out, just cull us down to a manageable level, a population that's never going to be big enough to develop interstellar travel?
On the food front there are synthetic foods, although I think the problem here would be one of scale.
Apologies if this has been said before, either here or another thread, but for all the Invasion of the Body Snatchers' vibes, this most reminds me of Trek's This Side of Paradise, with Carol very much cast in the Jim Kirk role
I had an interesting discussion with a friend this week who feels Carol is the bad guy. I see his point, and I think this is a great show that isn't providing easy answers, but I'm also 100% behind Carol on this!
It’s hard to see the aliens rising to a technological level high enough to send an interstellar signal with the same ethics humans now have. So it really does seem like a method to limit and control humanity.
I’m surprised everyone in the show has ignored the aliens. Does the hive mind know anything about them? Are they coming to Earth? No one is asking these questions.
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Setting aside the technology needed to create the virus, if you could create it why go to all the trouble of a fake alien signal and rely on an accident, surely you'd just release it across the globe simultaneously.
It might be that the virus conditions the hive mind not to consider such thoughts.
I suspect there are no aliens coming to Earth, the signal has come from a long way off (was it 600 light years? I have that in my head for some reason).
It feels either like a way of clearing out other civilizations in preparation for when you can go to the stars, or some weird form of colonisation. For all we know the virus might start making even more radical changes to humanity.
It is a haphazard approach whatever's behind it because you are relying on a species being stupid or careless enough to not only make the virus but allow it to spread
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