Strange New Worlds Season 2 Trailer

[Mudd]

"What you had to do, what you always do. Turned death into a fighting chance to live".

You're quoting one of the revival movies, which were nothing if not mannered and stuffy by the standard of their times.

Just for starts, try:
“It's a mystery. And I don't like mysteries. They give me a bellyache, and I got a beauty right now.”

It's an absolute fact that the human characters on TOS spoke as colloquially as other television characters of their day, just as doctors, cops and cowboys did. TV itself happened to be more formal then and a little less relatable. It was only after Trek became a Thing that flourished through self-mimicry that the producers confused it with something Shakespearean.

One of the staff writers on TNG called it "The stilted Star Trek language." They hated it.

 

[cooleddie74]

I'll take "In a pig's eye" over a TNG Picard retort any day.

 

[Racefuel]

Awww, you don't like Season 1 and 2 of Picard smugness?

At least it gets better a bit

 

[cooleddie74]

"Symbiosis" Picard could well be the lowpoint of his dickishness.

 

[Oso Blanco]

Why would it be relevant to Romulan conflict?

I meant Space Seed, sorry.

 

[fireproof78]

Awww, you don't like Season 1 and 2 of Picard smugness?

I'll turn it off first. Smugness will take my enjoyment down a lot.

 

[Tuskin38]

Timothy Peel mentioned on twitter last year that the etchings of the NX-01 and USS Essex in Pike's Ready Room would be replaced with 4k screens that will show different ships.

Well we got an out of focus shot of one in the trailer
https://twitter.com/gaghyogi49/status/1653115822779269120

 

[DEWLine]

I rarely paid attention to the etchings, and yet I think I'm sorry to lose them from that set.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I didn’t even know they were there

 

[Nerys Myk]

 

[CorporalClegg]

Uh.. Yes?

 

[cooleddie74]

That's one frosted hull you've got there, Captain.

 

[fireproof78]

Captains in glass ships shouldn't throw torpedoes.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Captains in glass ships shouldn't throw torpedoes.

Or whole ships, or even asteroids!

(Sorry, wrong series!)

 

[Gary Bitchell]

The use of anachronisms should not be confused with anachronistic dialog. From TOS to VOY, the dialog was futuristic, well-spoken, and with minimal slang but with occasional use of anachronisms appealing to the audience of that time period. Tom Paris's love of classic cars is a perfect example. However, the dialog of many TOS episodes is consistent through VOY. ENT was near-future Star Trek but overall feels futuristic.

Modern Star Trek dialog has been mostly anachronistic. It doesn't feel futuristic to me with the exception of Picard and I very much disliked the first two seasons. Picard S3 probably contained more anachronisms than all of TNG but overall it was futuristic and intelligent, with a connection to its history aside from mere fan service and sound queues.

Again, this is my opinion. Maybe modern Star Trek just isn't for me. I don't begrudge others for disagreeing. If I deem that SNW S2 is unwatchable I have many, many hours of classic Trek to entertain me.

To summarize in today's terminology:
TOS - ENT = 1967 Camaro
Picard S3 = 1971= Cutlass Supreme
Disco, SNW, PIC S1-2 = 2011 Toyota Camry

In 2053, no one will care about the 2011 Toyota Camry.

Oh, bollocks.

The many, many people who enjoy modern Trek will still care about it in 2053. And if Trek exists in any form in 2053, it is due DIRECTLY to the revitalization brought about by Discovery and SNW.

Discovery, by the way, ended a dry spell that your "Camaro" ENTERPRISE destroyed.

You know, you can just dislike a Star Trek property,right? You don't have to like all of them. But trying to justify that it's garbage and everyone agrees with you is silly.

I hate TNG and Picard Season 3 . I think they are the weakest and most creatively bankrupt parts of the franchise, and constantly took the easy way out. But lmao, that's not a universal opinion.

Likewise, your opinion that DISCO sucks is not universal. If it was, the franchise would have died again, instead of spawning an entire new era of animated and live action shows.

 

[Sci]

The use of anachronisms should not be confused with anachronistic dialog.

All dialogue in Star Trek is anachronistic, because it's all written to be easily comprehensible to an audience from the late 20th and early 21st Centuries. In real life, the English language in the 23rd/24th/25th Centuries will almost certainly be as different from today as today is from the English language 300 to 400 years ago.

From TOS to VOY, the dialog was futuristic, well-spoken, and with minimal slang

What you actually mean is that it was written using contemporary prescriptivist American English. That's not futuristic, but it is both classist (prescriptivist English is no better or worse than forms of English) and so unrealistic as to border on dishonesty (people have always, and will always, use vernacular).

Ditching that for more emotionally-relatable dialogue was a good choice.

 

[Racefuel]

The phrase "garbage scow" was used in TOS...

Lets see if that even has much relevance in 2023, much less 2266

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

That's one frosted hull you've got there, Captain.

More "engineering parlance"?

 

[Mudd]

It takes me out of the Star Trek universe.

Good. It's a very crowded, small universe as it is.

 

[TRON JA307020]

The phrase "garbage scow" was used in TOS...

Lets see if that even has much relevance in 2023, much less 2266

I think they have garbage scows in new york harbors. It's a new york thing.