Strange New Worlds disappointment

[ILovePuppies]

It might be a bit closer to her science goals than nurse was. Perhaps Korby's disappearance and death ruined archaeology for her? That can happen to some people. Some people join careers with a lot of travelling because they don't like to stay in one place, a way of running from their pain and problems.

I think that genetic research is her goal. She's very invested in publishing papers and she's on load from Stanford so she's a researcher. Archaeological medicine seemed to be a side interest that evolved from wanting techniques when technology failed. They haven't really shown us what archaeological medicine is as the digs we've seen are pure archaeology and this doesn't seem to be a longstanding career goal. The choice to maker her a doctor likely seemed to be modern and feminist at the time but the SNW Chapel and TOS Season 1 Chapel seem to love research and scientific advancement rather than the actual practice of medicine. Personally I think that archaeological medicine was a side interest that faded rather than ruined because of Korby. She does seem to be someone who throw herself into new adventures and travelling due to a bit of pain and PTSD.

Yeah, not like IMDb is a vast improvement, but I'm much more likely to pay attention to their ratings than RT's. RT is the People's Choice Awards to IMDb's Emmys.

I have no idea how ratings and sentiment are tracked. The reviewers have delivered much more notably negative reviews of this season and acknowledgements that the quality of the season was 'mixed' have been made by the showrunners. I assume therefore that the season did not fair very well on whatever metrics they / Paramount use. Seasons 1 and 2 were well received but this season has received a lot of criticism. I know others disagree but the reviews really do point the finger at too much melodrama and romance especially for Spock. They need to return to Season 1 and 2 quality if they want a shot at Year One. Paramount are not handing out easy money anymore.

 

[gabby1701]

Now you’re just posting nonsense for the sake of posting nonsense. Since it’s clear that we’re not going to have any kind of meaningful conversation, I’ll just let this drop.

how is what I am saying nonsense when I keep posting trek clips to prove my point.

Rotten Tomatoes. When you need the best, but settle for the less.

people do not know how to use rotten tomatoes. they just look at fresh and rt image but they fail to read the reviews.

a critic can still say a film is generic or sort of bad but it was fun so they will give it a fresh score. many MCU movies were like this.

to use rotten tomatoes well, I suggest you spend time and read why the critics like the movie or even tv. some films are praised for been dumb fun or are praised for the actually film making like VFX, Cinematography, direction editing, actor performances.

Be that as it may SNW audience score are bad, they have dropped each season and right now season 3 is a splat at 52% it will go below 50 by christmas 2025.

Also the ratings for season 3 have been poor, they fell on nielsen scan rating on episode 4 and never returned.I think there are some heavy talks going on behind the scenes, I ill not be suprised if they have some reshoots.

 

[ILovePuppies]

Also the ratings for season 3 have been poor, they fell on nielsen scan rating on episode 4 and never returned.I think there are some heavy talks going on behind the scenes, I ill not be suprised if they have some reshoots.

Yes I think they fell outside the Top 10 of the Nielson ratings after the Holodeck episode and didn't recover. That episode was the worst of the season for me so I think that reaction was well deserved. I doubt that they'll reshoot though. That would be so expensive and the episodes are already in the editing phase so that would cause enormous delay. The best we can hope for is some strategic editing in response to feedback.

 

[Mr. Spook]

I hate to break it to you, but canonically Spock still has to meet Leila Kalomi pretty soon, probably in Season 4.

Does he?

I know it's canon but I think they'll just ignore Leila. The frustration and reviews at that point would hit rock bottom - unless they're able to attract the Love Island audience

Here's the thing....do we have to see it? We know how it goes, we saw the episode she was introduced. It was apparently one-sided, whatever Spock's feelings were, he didn't share them with her. Any of this can happen between seasons, even episodes.

The play loosey goosey with continuity, so this could easily fall into loosey or goosey.

One of my issues with Solo: A Star Wars Story was the obsessive need to show us every important event mentioned about Han Solo in the original trilogy in that one film. I don't think we need to see everything about Spock's referenced past reenacted in the miniscule number of episodes this series has left.

Having said that, if the Muppet episode is a reenactment of the event set to Spock's narration, I'd probably enjoy that.

 

[Yistaan]

Does he?

Here's the thing....do we have to see it? We know how it goes, we saw the episode she was introduced. It was apparently one-sided, whatever Spock's feelings were, he didn't share them with her. Any of this can happen between seasons, even episodes.

The play loosey goosey with continuity, so this could easily fall into loosey or goosey.

One of my issues with Solo: A Star Wars Story was the obsessive need to show us every important event mentioned about Han Solo in the original trilogy in that one film. I don't think we need to see everything about Spock's referenced past reenacted in the miniscule number of episodes this series has left.

Having said that, if the Muppet episode is a reenactment of the event set to Spock's narration, I'd probably enjoy that.

If we don't see it, I'll pretend that it happened offscreen at the beginning of Season 3 (when the Enterprise was in the Sol system for repairs after Hegemony, all of which is in 2261 and thus fits the timeframe mentioned in TOS) and the REAL reason that Spock rejected Leila was because he was still waiting for Christine Chapel (who as we all know was already bedding Roger Korby at this point).

Also the Muppet episode being where Spock meets Leila is unlikely as Leila said in TOS that she never was on a Starfleet ship before and she met Spock on Earth.

 

[Mr. Spook]

If we don't see it, I'll pretend that it happened offscreen at the beginning of Season 3 (when the Enterprise was in the Sol system for repairs after Hegemony, all of which is in 2261 and thus fits the timeframe mentioned in TOS) and the REAL reason that Spock rejected Leila was because he was still waiting for Christine Chapel (who as we all know was already bedding Roger Korby at this point).

Also the Muppet episode being where Spock meets Leila is unlikely as Leila said in TOS that she never was on a Starfleet ship before and she met Spock on Earth.

We only saw Pike in that clip, no? He's just part of the story. It doesn't negate the possibility.

Having said that, I have zero confidence that my ESP is so good that I just guessed the plot of the Muppet episode.

 

[ILovePuppies]

Does he?

Here's the thing....do we have to see it? We know how it goes, we saw the episode she was introduced. It was apparently one-sided, whatever Spock's feelings were, he didn't share them with her. Any of this can happen between seasons, even episodes.

The play loosey goosey with continuity, so this could easily fall into loosey or goosey.

Apparently Spock meets Leila in the year that we're in and there's about 6 months left. If they want to do it then I think they'd have to do it in Season 4 or at the end of Season 4. I think they'll let the whole idea slide personally but if they want to do it then he needs to crack on and end things with La'an. The commentary out of the Season 4 Sneak Peak today emphasises the Spock Kirk relationship above all things and how Chapel and La'an have taught Spock things which he carries into his relationship with Kirk. This sends off the vibe that those relationships are not so important by themselves so I'm thinking that they do plan on ending things with La'an this season and likely deprioritising their relationship (I hope). This could open up room of Leila I suppose but I don't think that they can do yet another Spock romance.

If we don't see it, I'll pretend that it happened offscreen at the beginning of Season 3 (when the Enterprise was in the Sol system for repairs after Hegemony, all of which is in 2261 and thus fits the timeframe mentioned in TOS) and the REAL reason that Spock rejected Leila was because he was still waiting for Christine Chapel (who as we all know was already bedding Roger Korby at this point).

That's certainly a fair theory! The showrunners are SO keen on links to TOS though that I would be surprised if they introduced her at the end of this season and things are left to our imagination.

 

[flandry84]

Are people even listening to themselves?
The Muppet episode..FFS!

Y’know maybe they could have a Dora the explorer crossover while they are at it.

 

[Firebird]

how is what I am saying nonsense when I keep posting trek clips to prove my point.


people do not know how to use rotten tomatoes. they just look at fresh and rt image but they fail to read the reviews.

a critic can still say a film is generic or sort of bad but it was fun so they will give it a fresh score. many MCU movies were like this.

to use rotten tomatoes well, I suggest you spend time and read why the critics like the movie or even tv. some films are praised for been dumb fun or are praised for the actually film making like VFX, Cinematography, direction editing, actor performances.

Be that as it may SNW audience score are bad, they have dropped each season and right now season 3 is a splat at 52% it will go below 50 by christmas 2025.

Rotten Tomatoes' audience score are utterly worthless in proving any point, due to how susceptible it is to manipulation by online trolls. Using that for your evidence is consistent with your heretofore faulty reasoning, so your credence is still exceedingly low.

I think there are some heavy talks going on behind the scenes, I ill not be suprised if they have some reshoots.

Ah, yes, the "I made it the fuck up" gambit.

 

[Sketcher]

Y’know maybe they could have a Dora the explorer crossover while they are at it.

I hope so! This is a great idea!

 

[fireproof78]

Are people even listening to themselves?
The Muppet episode..FFS!

 

[Leo Walsh]

Also the ratings for season 3 have been poor, they fell on nielsen scan rating on episode 4 and never returned.I think there are some heavy talks going on behind the scenes, I ill not be suprised if they have some reshoots.

Not being in the top ten is not "poor." And what you "think" is going on behind the scenes doesn't even rise to the level of uninformed guesswork; it's trivial, schadenfreude-laced fantasy.

 

[flandry84]

The future of Trek ladies and gentlemen.

 

[AntonyF]

Not being in the top ten is not "poor."

"It's the taking part that counts!"

 

[Leo Walsh]

The future of Trek ladies and gentlemen.

If only. Instead we're getting SFA slop.

 

[Mr. Spook]

Are people even listening to themselves?
The Muppet episode..FFS!

And...? Like the idea or hate it there's literally nothing we can do about it, so.....

 

[fireproof78]

And...? Like the idea or hate it there's literally nothing we can do about it, so.....

 

[Zombie Cheerleader]

Are people even listening to themselves?
The Muppet episode..FFS!

Y’know maybe they could have a Dora the explorer crossover while they are at it.

Are you implying the Muppets are just for kids, FFS?

Wait, some folks want more exploring? Dora will give them that!!!!!!