Because the later based shows are exploring a new era, not the much smaller already explored region of the TOS era
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Because the later based shows are exploring a new era, not the much smaller already explored region of the TOS era
I really feel like 72 episodes of the TOS are not enough to say it's "already explored."
That's a relatively small sample size of what's potentially out there in terms of strange and new.
Except we actually know very little about the Federation, even the core worlds. We barely know what its like beyond the border.
We know nothing about Tellar (I don't care what the novelizations say).
True. I guess I just prefer exploration be based in an era that's actually new to us viewers.
Uh, that's exactly why I'm saying focus on underused existing races
No. That's not what I'm saying. There are so many races the UFP would have known and making contact with in the mid-23rd Century.Why focus on the few we saw in TOS. Are you suggesting using the races we saw in Journey to Babel?
Let's not give them the Klingon/Borg treatment.
You keep pointing out Klingons and Borg yet I referred to andorians. You don't have to jump to one extreme.
And honestly the reason people like Klingons is because they get a lot of focus and aren't just aliens of the week.
TOS is good but it barely fleshed anything out. I like how much DS9 actually used it's ensemble and fleshed out a lot of alien races instead of just alien of the week
True. I meant more in a recurring fashion instead of outright saying "no new species at all". I guess I wasn't clear enough about that
I'm not sure you are understanding what I'm saying.
So other races need the focus besides the Klingons. The Klingons can go away. Preferably far, far away.
Ok, but we're in an era where we can flesh things out from TOS. From Babel races, to other early Earth colonies, and a lot of other ships to explore.
Again, I don't disagree.I'm saying they should be fleshed out. Idk why people think I'm saying otherwise.
Tbh I don't think I am
Alright. It's the "focus" I'm a bit concerned about. What did you mean by "focus" How often should they show up in a ten-episode season? Also, we saw only a small fraction of the UFP. I don't believe every UFP member was shown in Journey to Babel. Why do we have to "focus" on the races we saw in TOS, when there were likely unseen and unnamed races who were part of the UFP in this era, along with the neighborhooding races and the ones they would have been making contact at the time?
I've seen some fans say that Klingons were overused in TNG, and they didn't actually show up that often (aside from Worf obviously).
Well, I will go back to an earlier post...
You're looking for something new in universe. A new setting, new worlds, etc. So, the idea is that it not only would be new to us, the audience, but new to our POV characters too. What I am saying, and you're agreeing with, is that there is less fleshed out things in TOS era. I just think we can use SNW as a "lesser known" era and flesh it out.
Hopefully that made sense.
By focus I mean worldbuilding and expanding on the alien races, like what DS9 did for the Bajorans, Cardassians, Changelings, etc. If it's 10 episodes then not too many episodes but some kind of 2-3 epsidoe story arc.
I understand what you mean. I just also like seeing what we already have get fleshed out, something TOS didn't do all too well, and while we definitely could use more alien races in that era than what TOS & TAS showed, I think seeing more of the ones we had but not enough of, or even underused Berman era species, would be more interesting to me in terms of expanding on that era
Whereas fleshing out an entirely new race in an unexplored region of the galaxy appeals more to me in a "current era" show because it doesn't run the risk of being restricted in terms of expansion and breaking canon (which can be avoided but is riskier in a prequel)
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