Spock could wipe his own memory! [Puts fingers up to his forehead.] "Forget."
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Oh I've got an idea. In the series finale of Strange New Worlds, they'll have an appearance by Zachary Quinto as Kelvin Timeline Spock who somehow comes into the Prime Timeline. Then, in a homage to DS9: Visionary and Voyager: Deadlock, Peck's Spock will be killed but as he dies he will transfer his katra to Quinto's Spock.
Quinto's Spock fails to make it back to the wormhole to the Kelvin Timeline before it collapses, stranding him in the Prime Timeline with all of Prime Spock's memories. He thus decides to take Prime Spock's place, meaning that Leonard Nimoy's Spock was really Quinto's Spock all along, and everything Prime Spock did in the Kelvin movies was just to preserve his own timeline.
Quinto's Spock fails to make it back to the wormhole to the Kelvin Timeline before it collapses, stranding him in the Prime Timeline with all of Prime Spock's memories. He thus decides to take Prime Spock's place, meaning that Leonard Nimoy's Spock was really Quinto's Spock all along, and everything Prime Spock did in the Kelvin movies was just to preserve his own timeline.
Watching parts of DISC season 2, I actually found that I enjoy those versions of Pike and Number One, they are both very likeable characters and I'm beginning to understand why'd there be interest in a series based on them (beyond "nostalgia") and they had a minor character who was a Barzan, a species introduced in TNG, which gives me hope that more 90s-Trek species might appear.
It will be interesting to see what additional characters they'll have though.
It will be interesting to see what additional characters they'll have though.
Oh I've got an idea. In the series finale of Strange New Worlds, they'll have an appearance by Zachary Quinto as Kelvin Timeline Spock who somehow comes into the Prime Timeline. Then, in a homage to DS9: Visionary and Voyager: Deadlock, Peck's Spock will be killed but as he dies he will transfer his katra to Quinto's Spock.
Quinto's Spock fails to make it back to the wormhole to the Kelvin Timeline before it collapses, stranding him in the Prime Timeline with all of Prime Spock's memories. He thus decides to take Prime Spock's place, meaning that Leonard Nimoy's Spock was really Quinto's Spock all along, and everything Prime Spock did in the Kelvin movies was just to preserve his own timeline.
I'd bank on Pike's Enterprise making first contact with Cardassians.
Would love to see that. Kzinti as well.
I guess official contact with the government, there was an exiled Cardassian living on Vulcan in the 22nd Century according to Dax.
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Will be interesting to see the early Cardassian ships.
It would also be nice to see the Bajorans pre-occupation, when they were considered a very advanced and refined culture (according to Captain Picard). Though from the glimpses on pre-Occupation Bajor it also seems like they had a caste system and didn't like leaving their planet much...
Yes, and generally more aliens who are as unique (for Star Trek) as the Kzinti Insectoids and Aquarians. Would also be nice to see more Andorians, Orions, Saurians, Gorn, Tholians...
Actually, I was referring to the Kzinti, not the Xindi, but those would be interesting to see as well. 
Actually, I was referring to the Kzinti, not the Xindi, but those would be interesting to see as well.
Ooops, I tend to mix them up, but seeing some of the various feline species would be cool as well.
Though with the Kzinti, wouldn't there be some legal issue, since they are an original creation belonging to the Known Space series? Might have to use Caitians or Ferasans instead...
I get the impression that they may have worked all that out a while back. Had Enterprise seen a 5th season, we would have gotten a return of the Kzin - they even went so far as designing a new ship for them before the show got canceled.
Then there is the most recent reference to them in Picard, where River explains the existence of their shield system on Nepenthe because the “Kzinti were giving them trouble”.
So I’m pretty sure there’s a better-than-average chance we’ll see them again. Might be a budget-breaker, though. They’re roughly humanoid in shape, but they would almost certainly need to be all CG, as opposed to the more human-like Catians.
Then there is the most recent reference to them in Picard, where River explains the existence of their shield system on Nepenthe because the “Kzinti were giving them trouble”.
So I’m pretty sure there’s a better-than-average chance we’ll see them again. Might be a budget-breaker, though. They’re roughly humanoid in shape, but they would almost certainly need to be all CG, as opposed to the more human-like Catians.
It was discussed but never approved.
I'd rather not have any TNG species on SNW. It's a slippery slope to bringing in the Borg. Why not flesh out the Tholians or Gorn instead?
I really do love the title Strange new worlds. My pick for titles eoither be Star Trek The Pike Years or Star Trek The Early Years (not the 2009 movie Title).
Well the Gorn’s appearance in TOS was first contact with the species, so that’s a no go.
If the tholians show up there would have to be no visual communication, TOS was the first time they were ever seen IIRC.
I just don't like the idea of ignoring everything that wasn't introduced in TOS, the Cardassians are just as much part of the Star Trek universe as the Tholians are. Star Trek isn't just TOS.
I agree however that they shouldn't have Borg or Ferengi (both species that, ignoring Enterprise shoe horning them in, only have made contact with the Federation later on in the timeline) Truth be told I wouldn't mind them giving the Klingons a rest either. They seem to be so over present in every Star Trek show.
Plus there's nothing preventing them from showing Cardassians and fleshing out the Tholians and Gorn.
Unless I’m misremembering, first contact with the Gorn was in TOS. I remember there being hubbub over Lorca having a Gorn skeleton in his lab because of it.
While I do think that stuff like that can easily be retconned or ignored without much problem (same with showing the Tholians or Romulans), this actually makes a case for the Cardassians having "more right" to appear on Strange New Worlds
If I'm not mistaken no exact date for first contact with Cardassians, Bajorans, Bolians, Betazoids, Deltans, Saurians, Caitians, Edosians etc. was ever established on-screen, so they are all fair game. Trills too, technically, but they would have be careful about making them secretive about their symbionts and avoiding transporters (though again that could be ret-conned similarly to the Tholians, Gorn and Romulans). So if they were to show Trills, it'd probably be better to reduce them to cameos.
According to Dax on DS9 there was a Cardassian exile living on Vulcan in the 22nd Century, so the species was known, but official first contact probably hadn't happened yet.While I do think that stuff like that can easily be retconned or ignored without much problem (same with showing the Tholians or Romulans), this actually makes a case for the Cardassians having "more right" to appear on Strange New Worlds
If I'm not mistaken no exact date for first contact with Cardassians, Bajorans, Bolians, Betazoids, Deltans, Saurians, Caitians, Edosians etc. was ever established on-screen, so they are all fair game. Trills too, technically, but they would have be careful about making them secretive about their symbionts and avoiding transporters (though again that could be ret-conned similarly to the Tholians, Gorn and Romulans). So if they were to show Trills, it'd probably be better to reduce them to cameos.
Also what Romulan retcon?
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